Coin Grading/Authentication Services - Page 4

**GDJMSP** · 09-05-2003, 10:05 PM

No - the ANA has said they will not certify the graders - yet. They are still examining the idea and trying to work out a way to help solve the problems in the grading industry.

keyboard · 10-20-2003, 08:41 AM

Hello.
I have The mountain Pen L.E Gold 18K

**GDJMSP** · 10-21-2003, 01:20 AM

keyboard - Welcome to the Forum !

Can you tell us what this Mountain Pen L.E Gold 18K is ? I have never heard of such a thing.

Pirate · 11-29-2003, 03:10 PM

Lol , I Buy Raw Coins With The Knowlege Of There Grade! Hum, Grading Is Subjective. Send The Same Coin To All Agencys .better Yet Break It Out Send Back To Same Agency 5 Times. Good Luck Pirate

AUBU2 · 04-07-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pirate

Lol , I Buy Raw Coins With The Knowlege Of There Grade! Hum, Grading Is Subjective. Send The Same Coin To All Agencys .better Yet Break It Out Send Back To Same Agency 5 Times. Good Luck Pirate

It reminds me of a test that was run on income tax preparers. The same figures were given to multiple preparers. Every tax form came back different. They varied from having to pay in a considerable amount, to getting back a hefty return.(how did i end up in a 6 year old thread?)

900fine · 04-07-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AUBU2

It reminds me of a test that was run on income tax preparers. The same figures were given to multiple preparers. Every tax form came back different. They varied from having to pay in a considerable amount, to getting back a hefty return.

I choose door #2 !

**Peter T Davis** · 08-15-2005, 10:03 PM

Almost three years ago and I still find this information useful.

**GDJMSP** · 08-15-2005, 11:08 PM

There ya go - makin me feel old again

Morgan · 08-15-2005, 11:42 PM

I wonder what they would say about SGS

**GDJMSP** · 08-15-2005, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Morgan

I wonder what they would say about SGS

You wonder what "who" would say about them ? The guy defending his company - or the other posters ?

The Old Sarge · 08-02-2008, 08:19 PM

Gentlemen;

Let me add my two cents worth.

BUY THE COIN NOT THE PLASTIC!!!!

Accugrade: Alan is a personal friend of mine and I like him as a person. He has an extensive knowledge of coins and has written extensively on grading silver dollars (4 volume series covering Morgan, Peace and Ike dollars). That is on the plus side. On the minus side, he is blunt, opinionated and grates on you like a corncob used for toilet paper. (Sorry Alan, that is fact). Alan is a salesman and he is good at it. I have purchased a few hundred of his slabs at discounted prices simply because the other person wanted to get rid of them. Most were resubmitted to another service and crossed over in the same grade. Granted, I did select carefully just as I do with all the other services.

SEGS: I chose SEGS as the grading service I use simply because Larry is very knowledgable about varities and errors plus the fact that I believe his slab is presently the safest on the market. Larry tends to practice technical grading, not consensus grading. Consensus or market grading should have no bearing on the actual grade of a coin. It will, however, have a distinct bearing on the price. A beautiful coin brings more money than one with problems - spots, etc.

PCGS and NGC: I accept that a coin graded by either of these services should not vary more than a point (grading is an art, not a science).but the question of the difference in grading that infamous 1974 aluminum cent which NGC gave a AU58 and PCGS gave a MS62. If tit had been the other way I would understand it better. How can a coin go from used to new? PCGS has been remarkedly close mouthed about that one.

Rule 2: Never buy a coin that you don't like regardless of the price. You will never like it.

Rule 3: There are only two actual grades for a coin. One is new. The other is used. The rumoured reason that we actually have 70 different grades is to make us (the dealers) feel superior to used car dealers. The price of a coin is arrived at after negotiation between seller and buyer.

Paul Garner
The Old Sarge

MrOrganic · 06-01-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Old Sarge

Gentlemen;

Let me add my two cents worth.

BUY THE COIN NOT THE PLASTIC!!!!

Accugrade: Alan is a personal friend of mine and I like him as a person. He has an extensive knowledge of coins and has written extensively on grading silver dollars (4 volume series covering Morgan, Peace and Ike dollars). That is on the plus side. On the minus side, he is blunt, opinionated and grates on you like a corncob used for toilet paper. (Sorry Alan, that is fact). Alan is a salesman and he is good at it. I have purchased a few hundred of his slabs at discounted prices simply because the other person wanted to get rid of them. Most were resubmitted to another service and crossed over in the same grade. Granted, I did select carefully just as I do with all the other services.

SEGS: I chose SEGS as the grading service I use simply because Larry is very knowledgable about varities and errors plus the fact that I believe his slab is presently the safest on the market. Larry tends to practice technical grading, not consensus grading. Consensus or market grading should have no bearing on the actual grade of a coin. It will, however, have a distinct bearing on the price. A beautiful coin brings more money than one with problems - spots, etc.

PCGS and NGC: I accept that a coin graded by either of these services should not vary more than a point (grading is an art, not a science).but the question of the difference in grading that infamous 1974 aluminum cent which NGC gave a AU58 and PCGS gave a MS62. If tit had been the other way I would understand it better. How can a coin go from used to new? PCGS has been remarkedly close mouthed about that one.

Rule 2: Never buy a coin that you don't like regardless of the price. You will never like it.

Rule 3: There are only two actual grades for a coin. One is new. The other is used. The rumoured reason that we actually have 70 different grades is to make us (the dealers) feel superior to used car dealers. The price of a coin is arrived at after negotiation between seller and buyer.

Paul Garner
The Old Sarge

Hey sarge,

What are your thoughts on ANACS

thanx

laz · 07-15-2003, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Reid Goldsborough

"GradingPolicingAuthority" above doesn't mention that he's with TCGS (Twenty-first Century Grading Service), or appears to be from his two threatening emails to me. For the record, I'm not affiliated with any grading service.

I find it rather interesting that this was the "authorities" only post, kinda hit and run. Pretty sad way to behave if you ask me,and not exactly showing the good side of grading services! ~ Jim

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