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Page 3 of 3 < 1 2 3   LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes 11-19-2009, 11:52 AM   #31 (permalink) GDJMSP Numismatist     Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: PA Posts: 24,653 Quote: Originally Posted by jallengomez GDJMSP- Thanks for that great info on standards. What does "reflectivity at 2 inches" mean? It means that if you held a business card up in front of a coin at a distance of 2 inches that you could read what it says on the business card in the reflection you see on the coin. In other words, you are using the coin like a mirror and the greater the distance then the greater the degree of reflectivity - thus the designations. __________________ knowledge ..... share it   11-19-2009, 11:53 AM   #32 (permalink) GDJMSP Numismatist     Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: PA Posts: 24,653 Quote: Originally Posted by CamaroDMD I hadn't even realized it had gone. How long has it not been there? Couple weeks now I think. __________________ knowledge ..... share it   11-19-2009, 11:57 AM   #33 (permalink) CamaroDMD Dental Student     Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,874 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by GDJMSP Couple weeks now I think. Wow...just another example of Richie with his "head in the clouds" and not noticing the change. __________________ The Truth About "O" Mint Morgan Dollars   11-19-2009, 11:59 AM   #34 (permalink) jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey     Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Duluth, Ga Posts: 788 Quote: Originally Posted by GDJMSP It means that if you held a business card up in front of a coin at a distance of 2 inches that you could read what it says on the business card in the reflection you see on the coin. In other words, you are using the coin like a mirror and the greater the distance then the greater the degree of reflectivity - thus the designations. More great info. Thanks.   11-19-2009, 12:51 PM   #35 (permalink) Collect89 Coin Collector     Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,803 just a side note on PL & DPL Quote: Originally Posted by jallengomez GDJMSP- Thanks for that great info on standards. What does "reflectivity at 2 inches" mean?....... Hello Jallengomez, For a coin to be designated PL or DPL, the entire field on both sides of the coin must have the reflectivity. If there is an area without the reflectivity on either side of the coin, then it shouldn't get the PL or DPL designation. __________________ "All of us are smarter than any one of us"   11-19-2009, 07:32 PM   #36 (permalink) jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey     Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Duluth, Ga Posts: 788 GDJMSP wanted to see the obverse, so here it is.   11-19-2009, 07:41 PM   #37 (permalink) Leadfoot Numismatist     Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,896 My Mood: The coin may be FB, but will not see the inside of a graded PCGS or NGC holder do to the cleaning/damage, IMO.   11-20-2009, 07:19 AM   #38 (permalink) GDJMSP Numismatist     Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: PA Posts: 24,653 Quote: Originally Posted by jallengomez GDJMSP wanted to see the obverse, so here it is. Confirms what the rev pic did - harshly cleaned. __________________ knowledge ..... share it   11-20-2009, 08:10 AM   #39 (permalink) jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey     Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Duluth, Ga Posts: 788 Quote: Originally Posted by GDJMSP Confirms what the rev pic did - harshly cleaned. In hand the coin just does not look like this. I wonder if this is the result of viewing it at what would be the equivalent of 70x magnification or so since I'm shooting about 4" from the coin with a 70mm lens and macro adapter?   11-20-2009, 10:29 AM   #40 (permalink) Just Carl Numismatist   Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 5,151 Quote: Originally Posted by jallengomez In hand the coin just does not look like this. I wonder if this is the result of viewing it at what would be the equivalent of 70x magnification or so since I'm shooting about 4" from the coin with a 70mm lens and macro adapter? Regardless of the distance or type of magnification used, that coin has been cleaned with something that leaves those scratches. Minor for sure but they are there. This coin is OK for a collection to fill a hole for a common date coin and is really in great shape except for the wear, scratches and cleaning. Not really worth sending in for a grading and slabbing that would cost more than the coin.   11-20-2009, 10:34 AM   #41 (permalink) CamaroDMD Dental Student     Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,874 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by Just Carl Regardless of the distance or type of magnification used, that coin has been cleaned with something that leaves those scratches. Minor for sure but they are there. This coin is OK for a collection to fill a hole for a common date coin and is really in great shape except for the wear, scratches and cleaning. Not really worth sending in for a grading and slabbing that would cost more than the coin. I agree, it is harshly cleaned and the TPGs will see it. It's not worth having it graded as it will come back in a genuine holder. __________________ The Truth About "O" Mint Morgan Dollars   11-21-2009, 07:22 AM   #42 (permalink) GDJMSP Numismatist     Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: PA Posts: 24,653 Quote: Originally Posted by jallengomez In hand the coin just does not look like this. I wonder if this is the result of viewing it at what would be the equivalent of 70x magnification or so since I'm shooting about 4" from the coin with a 70mm lens and macro adapter? A dime is 18mm, your pics are approx 200mm. So the coin is only blown up to 11 times its size. About the same as looking at it with a 10x glass. Sure the pics show the effects of the cleaning much easier than you can see it with the naked eye, but they are still there and an experienced eye would see them in a flash. __________________ knowledge ..... share it   Page 3 of 3 < 1 2 3 Bookmarks Digg del.icio.us StumbleUpon Google Would you like to support CoinTalk? Coin Talk Code of Honor 1. Post unto others as you would have them post unto you. 2. Keep it clean, like a 1950s family television show. 3. 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