This 16-D is a fake?

Ed Goldman · 11-05-2009, 10:38 PM

This coin looks like a fake to me. What do you think? http://cgi.ebay.com/1916-D-Rare-King...item3ca7251b43

Morgan1878 · 11-05-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Goldman

This coin looks like a fake to me. What do you think? http://cgi.ebay.com/1916-D-Rare-King...item3ca7251b43

Not sure if it's fake..but it's certainly not AU-50 as advertised...

quartertapper · 11-05-2009, 10:59 PM

I can't describe how my gut reaction tells me it's fake, but my instinct tells me to stay away. But, the seller offers a 7 day return policy and pays the return shipping. Maybe it's worth a shot...

rlm's cents · 11-05-2009, 11:01 PM

AU-50? Yea, right.

I am not the expert here, but were I a betting man, I would bet that it is a fake.

rockdude · 11-05-2009, 11:19 PM

I'd say it's real. He says it's real, offers return policy. If your interested in it, ask for another picture of some detail so you know he has the coin in his possession and it's not someone else's coin.

mikenoodle · 11-06-2009, 01:47 AM

I have probably mentioned this before but at the ANA one year I ran into Randy Campbell. He was grading coins of mine and 1 was a 16-D. He told me that not only was mine fake, but that it was the singularly most encountered fake at the TPG where he worked.

I would never buy a higher-end 16-D without authentication by NGC, PCGS or ANACS. Period. End of paragraph.

**The_Cave_Troll** · 11-06-2009, 10:24 AM

I believe this coin to be fake. I think it had the word copy on it in the reverse left field (from the O of ONE to the N of UNITED). It looks like it has been heavily tooled in that area to remove the evidence of that stamping.

Additionally the lower few leaves on the right side of the fasces fade into the field before they get all the way up to the fasces. On a genuine coin those leaves touch the fasces, even in very low grade. This type of loss of detail is consistant with a counterfeit coin.

Treashunt · 11-06-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Cave_Troll

I believe this coin to be fake. I think it had the word copy on it in the reverse left field (from the O of ONE to the N of UNITED). It looks like it has been heavily tooled in that area to remove the evidence of that stamping.

Additionally the lower few leaves on the right side of the fasces fade into the field before they get all the way up to the fasces. On a genuine coin those leaves touch the fasces, even in very low grade. This type of loss of detail is consistant with a counterfeit coin.

wow, interesting analysis.

ksparrow · 11-06-2009, 08:26 PM

I also believe it's a fake. The mintmark position and shape must match one of the 4 known varieties, I don't believe it does. The marks on the upper left reverse do not look like post mint damage to me. The E closest to the mm does a fade-away.