Retiring from SemiKey/Key Date Coins after next month.. - Page 4

GoldCoinLover · 11-05-2009, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by stainless

I'll have to read over your threads then. When I first got here, the community said "buy the coin, not the slab."

It seems wierd that they would contradict themselves, but we do have different members here now.

stainless

PS: Buy the coin, not the slab....

Buy the book before the coin, then buy the coin before the slab.

mikenoodle · 11-05-2009, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldCoinLover

Buy the book before the coin, then buy the coin before the slab.

now there's someone who knows how to listen!

CoinKeeper · 11-04-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BNB Analytics

i would defer them to graded coins like what i was told.

Wrong, and your reasoning is taking out of context! I'm sure not everyone told you to buy graded coins, and you should have done your own research before purchasing a coin. Tell others to talk to a dealer about what to look for in coins either graded or raw. Do not immediately defer them to graded coins. Tell them to read about the coin they're planning or wondering to get. Then they can make an informed decision instead of just buying slabbed coin.

BNB Analytics · 11-04-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CoinKeeper

Wrong, and your reasoning is taking out of context! I'm sure not everyone told you to buy graded coins, and you should have done your own research before purchasing a coin. Tell others to talk to a dealer about what to look for in coins either graded or raw. Do not immediately defer them to graded coins. Tell them to read about the coin they're planning or wondering to get. Then they can make an informed decision instead of just buying slabbed coin.

Wrong,

Wow. Gotcha!

Does it make you feel proud to try to take my post for the literal value and make me look bad?

CoinKeeper · 11-04-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BNB Analytics

Wrong,

Wow. Gotcha!

Does it make you feel proud to try to take my post for the literal value and make me look bad?

You said you would "defer them to graded coins". I don't know how this can be understood in an unconventional sense. It is a very literal statement that you made and it is wrong to tell a beginner this. It is clear to see you have nothing constructive to counterpoint our arguments with except that you're "coming off a cold". You also state: "can't we all just get along" and we are trying to do this in a manner which benefits the hobby, beginners, and yourself. YOU are the one who does not want to get along, sir.

CoinKeeper · 11-04-2009, 10:35 PM

BNB, you have many flaws in your argument and are digging yourself into a deeper hole. The only advice you should be giving is how not to be like yourself. You can tell people not to buy key and semi-key date coins without sufficient knowledge as you have done in the past. Also, it was interesting to read about your recent gold nugget purchase. You purchased 1/4oz of gold nuggets above spot and you weren't even aware of their purity, and you still needed to buy a scale. You said you would sell them at coin shows. But, now you are not going to be able to do this since you're "taking a break". How will you recoup the money you have spent? If you sell on eBay you'll loose money due to fees. You seriously had not taken the time to investigate your purchases and make sure you made a good deal. Speaking of good deals, eBay is usually not the place to find them. If you spent a little more time and effort going to coin shops, shows, and looking at classified sections on the internet or your community, you would be a much more successful entrepreneur. Now, you're saying you want to teach others about coins? About how much copper is in a cent? This is trivial and easy to find out so don't preach about your vast common knowledge like you're some expert. Please follow other people's advice before unloading your own. Should a preschooler be teaching their teacher? NO! And you shouldn't give advice to others unless you really know what you're talking about.

BNB Analytics · 11-04-2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CoinKeeper

BNB, you have many flaws in your argument and are digging yourself into a deeper hole. The only advice you should be giving is how not to be like yourself. You can tell people not to buy key and semi-key date coins without sufficient knowledge as you have done in the past. Also, it was interesting to read about your recent gold nugget purchase. You purchased 1/4oz of gold nuggets above spot and you weren't even aware of their purity, and you still needed to buy a scale. You said you would sell them at coin shows. But, now you are not going to be able to do this since you're "taking a break". How will you recoup the money you have spent? If you sell on eBay you'll loose money due to fees. You seriously had not taken the time to investigate your purchases and make sure you made a good deal. Speaking of good deals, eBay is usually not the place to find them. If you spent a little more time and effort going to coin shops, shows, and looking at classified sections on the internet or your community, you would be a much more successful entrepreneur. Now, you're saying you want to teach others about coins? About how much copper is in a cent? This is trivial and easy to find out so don't preach about your vast common knowledge like you're some expert. Please follow other people's advice before unloading your own. Should a preschooler be teaching their teacher? NO! And you shouldn't give advice to others unless you really know what you're talking about.

It's so hilarious that the people who say my argument is flawed are the ones who are just projecting their own flawed arguments onto me.

Isn't it funny how the world works?

Look, folks, I'm a fighter.

I don't care what your title in life is, I don't kiss anyone's behind.(And I see a good deal of that going around here with all due respect)

That might strike a nerve to some of you because you may see that as me being an "ungrateful" newbie, but guess what.. i'm not. I greatly appreciate all the good advice, but what I don't like is when people start attacking me for my character like this guy just did. It's uncalled for, completely. I just came here being nice. Some of you are at your own fault for turning this into a negative nancy thread.

Sorry, but do some of you not realize how silly you sound when you make these personal character assassinations towards me? Just give it up already cause I'll just fight back ten times harder. You speak like you've known me for years(even though we haven't even spoke once) and 90% of it is just flat out wrong or it's just an unreasonable expectation. You're not going to humiliate me and try to push forth your own personal agenda on me, no way, no how.

CoinKeeper · 11-04-2009, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BNB Analytics

It's so hilarious that the people who say my argument is flawed are the ones who are just projecting their own flawed arguments onto me.

Isn't it funny how the world works?

Look, folks, I'm a fighter.

I don't care what your title in life is, I don't kiss anyone's behind.(And I see a good deal of that going around here with all due respect)

That might strike a nerve to some of you because you may see that as me being an "ungrateful" newbie, but guess what.. i'm not. I greatly appreciate all the good advice, but what I don't like is when people start attacking me for my character like this guy just did. It's uncalled for, completely. I just came here being nice. Some of you are at your own fault for turning this into a negative nancy thread.

Sorry, but do some of you not realize how silly you sound when you make these personal character assassinations towards me? Just give it up already cause I'll just fight back ten times harder. You're not going to humiliate me and try to push forth your own personal agenda on me, no way, no how.

How are my arguments flawed? Please back up your thesis.

I don't think you're a fighter, I think you're delusional and need someone to backup your thoughts that in the back of your mind you know are untrue. We're giving you good advice and you're not taking it.

I enjoy this discussion, very enlightening to the human condition, and I get to practice my rhetoric. How's that for a little zing BNB?

BNB Analytics · 11-04-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CoinKeeper

How are my arguments flawed? Please back up your thesis.

I'm not, you're being a pain in the butt right now to me and I want nothing to do with it.

I'm coming off a cold and I don't wanna argue with small minded thoughts. I'm sorry, I just hate bickering but if I feel that someone is violating my personal boundaries, I stand up big time.

stainless · 11-04-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CoinKeeper

BNB, you have many flaws in your argument and are digging yourself into a deeper hole. The only advice you should be giving is how not to be like yourself. You can tell people not to buy key and semi-key date coins without sufficient knowledge as you have done in the past. Also, it was interesting to read about your recent gold nugget purchase. You purchased 1/4oz of gold nuggets above spot and you weren't even aware of their purity, and you still needed to buy a scale. You said you would sell them at coin shows. But, now you are not going to be able to do this since you're "taking a break". How will you recoup the money you have spent? If you sell on eBay you'll loose money due to fees. You seriously had not taken the time to investigate your purchases and make sure you made a good deal. Speaking of good deals, eBay is usually not the place to find them. If you spent a little more time and effort going to coin shops, shows, and looking at classified sections on the internet or your community, you would be a much more successful entrepreneur. Now, you're saying you want to teach others about coins? About how much copper is in a cent? This is trivial and easy to find out so don't preach about your vast common knowledge like you're some expert. Please follow other people's advice before unloading your own. Should a preschooler be teaching their teacher? NO! And you shouldn't give advice to others unless you really know what you're talking about.

To play the devils advocate, my lil bro is a preschooler, and he can say the darndest things

But seriously BnB, this post says it all.

stainless

tmoneyeagles · 11-04-2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BNB Analytics

The major focus of this move is to help out the younger newer people of the forum get started with a direction on what coins I think would be best for them to invest in.

Invest in? No coins are the best to invest in, lets put it that way. The younger people, or newer collectors will still do what they want to, and make hasty decisions, or they will find a good mentor and learn, regardless of what you do.
There is no reason to stop what you are doing, BNB. If you can keep doing what you are doing, why stop? You've said yourself you don't want to learn how to grade, and I believe you've said that you are just an investor in coins. Why stop? If you think that investing in the more expensive coins are worth it, then go for it! Nobody here is stopping you, but it is great that you've gained at least some perspective on what you want to collect, I guess?