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03-02-2004, 11:04 AM
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| Name that doubling
Okay error fans, lets see who can name this type of doubling.
This is the reverse of a Jefferson Nickel.
Details of strong doubling of the letters in America.
Is it true doubling, mechanical doubling, hub doubling, or something else all together.
See attached.
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03-02-2004, 11:19 AM
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Extra hints.
The lettering that has doubling is as follows.
All of OF
All of America
UM in Unum
ES in States
LO in Monticello
TS in Cents
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03-02-2004, 12:16 PM
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Let's give the newer error fans some referance material, to help them decide which type of doubling this is. LINK LINK#2 |
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03-02-2004, 12:26 PM
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Fantastic links sir.
So what is your guess on the doubling?
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03-02-2004, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by National dealer Okay error fans, lets see who can name this type of doubling.
This is the reverse of a Jefferson Nickel.
Details of strong doubling of the letters in America.
Is it true doubling, mechanical doubling, hub doubling, or something else all together.
See attached. | I'll bite .......
To me it looks like Die Deterioration or maybe Abrasion doubling.
What says you?
Jason Craton
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03-02-2004, 12:59 PM
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Not a bad guess, but no.
Here are two new pics showing other details.
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03-02-2004, 01:14 PM
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Here's some more brain food on the subject: LINK#3 |
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03-02-2004, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by National dealer Not a bad guess, but no.
Here are two new pics showing other details. |
I don't know. You have me stumped. I'd still guess Die Deterioration ... especially when looking at the first image in your second post. I'll be stumped until you give up the answer I guess 
Jason Craton
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03-02-2004, 01:20 PM
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Now let me add this ultimate hint.
The coin in question is a 1999-P
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03-02-2004, 01:56 PM
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Can we get a picture of the date and mintmark?
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03-02-2004, 02:16 PM
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Absolutely.
Here is Obverse date and mintmark.
Also full view of America
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03-02-2004, 02:49 PM
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Good pictures. I just wanted to confirm that it was not die deterioration damage.
That leaves us with mechanical doubling, correct?
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03-02-2004, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jody526 Good pictures. I just wanted to confirm that it was not die deterioration damage.
That leaves us with mechanical doubling, correct? | I wouldn't agree with Mechanical Doubling. I'm still sticking with deterioration until I hear otherwise 
With MDD, wouldn't there be flat shelf like doubling only in one direction? Some of these letters appear to have doubling on three sides.
Jason Craton
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03-02-2004, 03:08 PM
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Jason,
I can only see doubling in one direction. Of course my eyes aren't nearly as good as they used to be. (lol)
I would tend to believe that DDD would be in all directions, and most prevelant nearest to the rim.
Here is a link about your position: LINK#4 |
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03-02-2004, 03:00 PM
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Good job sir.
It is indeed mechanic doubling as confirmed by Anacs. Though not certified. (not worth the price) Not quite a "real" error, yet still an interesting occurrence. This coin was pulled out of change by a staff member, and the doubling is easily viewed by the naked eye.
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