Coin Chat Lingo

The Penny Lady · 10-21-2009, 07:58 PM

This was posted over on the CU forum, so consider this a blatant post theft! And I don't know if it was posted here previously, but I really thought it was helpful in figuring out what some people are saying on these forums, especially when they use acronyms! Feel free to plagiarize it from here too!

1883 N/C - 1883 Shield nickel without "5 Cents" (No Cent) incorporated in the design
1909 VDB MPL - Victor David Brenner cent design, Matte Proof Lincoln
Acetone - Organic solvent, industrial chemical (can be used for thinner, lacquers or oil base paints)
AT - Artificially Toned
B&M- Brick & Mortar, your local coin shop
BST - Buy, Sell, Trade, BST Forum
CAC-Certified Acceptance Corporation, an independent numismatic coin authentication service founded by John Albanese
CBH - Capped Bust Half
COT-- Circle of Trust™, a Mystic group of Forumites who have secretly bonded, there is also reputed to be a secret greeting handshake.
CPG- Cherry Picker’s Guide/Auth. Bill Fivaz & J.T. Stanton
CUFYNA - Collectors Universe For Your Necessary Action
David Hall - God Jr., Coin Person with Hawaiian shirt and a founder of PCGS, President, Collectors Universe
DIAF - Die In A Fire
Dipped - Cleaned with a chemical solution
DNC- Did not cross, coins submitted that do not cross into host's holder
Don Willis-President, PCGS
Dreck- Trash, especially inferior merchandise. (another term coined by Laura of Legend)
ED - Early date
EDS - Early Die State
EMDS - Early Middle Die State
Ezest - Coin cleaner
FB - Feed Back, eBay term for seller/buyer comments
FB - Mercury dimes exhibiting Full Bands due to an excellent strike.
FBL - Full Bell Lines on rev of Franklin Half Dollar
FE- Flying Eagle cent (1856-1858) LFE- Large Flying Eagle, pattern 1855
First Strike™- Brought about and twisted by marketers as the first coins struck by Mint dies, but it really only meant first delivered by Mint.
Flyer- Flying Eagle Cent, 1856/57/58
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Franklin half dollars,1948-1963
Frankies -* Designation - Used to signify superior eye-appeal by NGC. It DOES NOT signify PQness!
FSH-For Sale Here on the BST forum
FT - Full Torch (used to designate a full strike on Roosies)
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GAE - Gold American Eagle
GSA CC - Government Services Administration, Carson City mint
GTG-- Guess The Grade (or, alternatively, can be used as an abbreviation for Greg The Great)
IMO - In My Opinion
IMHO-In My Humble Opinion
IIRC-If I Recall Correctly
JMHO - Just My Humble Opinion
JMO - Just My Opinion
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KoolAid Pitcher - Linked to First Strike, the act of marketing a particular series of coins.
LDS - Late Die State
Macro - Photography term usually associated with a type of lens setting for close-ups
MAD- MisAligned Die
Matte finish - Also thought of as SATIN finish, mint dies glass bead blasted/pickled.
MDS - Middle Die State
Micro O - Super small new Orleans mint mark
Milk spots - Milky white spots that mysteriously appear on silver eagles due to improper rinse at the mint. They also show up on Peace dollars
Modern Crap - Anything minted post 1964, can be traced all the way back to board member "shirohniichan"
Moon Shot- Scanner bed or camera image taken without magnification or so far away, you need the Hubble to identify the coin
Moose - An incredible coin, usually one that grades MS/PR-67 or higher or a coin with astounding eye-appeal
MPD-Misplaced Punched Date
MS70 - Name brand for coin cleaner (by most accounts a detergent cleaner and not a stripper)
NARU - Not A Registered User (an eBay username that has been banned from further using eBay as a result of disobeying rules).
NN- Numismatic News
NPB - Non paying bidder, used in eBay
NT - Naturally Toned
OBW- Original Bank Wrapped coin rolls, 50 cents, 20 nickels, 50 dimes, 40 quarters, 20 fifty cent, 25 modern dollars
OF - Open Forum
OGH- Old Green Holder, PCGS slab with green label
OMM - Overpunched Mint Mark such as a D/S
OP - Original Poster
OT - Off Topic
OTOH - On The Other Hand
Pallad (or Pd) - Palladium
PC holder - PCGS holder
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Plat (or Pt) - Platinum
PM - Private Message
PMD-Post Mint Damage, something occured after the coin left the Mint
Pop - Population, as it pertains to registered coins that are slabbed
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POTD- Post Of The Day
PQ - Premium Quality
PUP- Pickup Point, a characteristic that usually indicates a nice strike.
Registry sets - Points awarded to slabbed series collections
Ron Guth - God, Coin Person with Crown and President, CoinFacts.com
Roosies - Roosevelt Dimes, particularly 90% silver 1946-1964
RPM - Repeated Punched Mintmark such as D/D
SAE - Silver American Eagle
SDB- Safety Deposit Box
Skin - Originality of a coin as it pertains to strike, luster and look
SLQ - Standing Liberty Quarter
SSP- Shameless Self Promotion (as seen on the BST)
TAT- Turn Around Time
T1 - Type 1, for Buffalo nickel (original design, 1913 only). For Jefferson nickels T1 steps (steps not braked with vertical lines). For Standing Liberty Quarters dated 1917 that show a bare breast.
T2 - Type 2, for Buffalo nickel (small changes to the reverse starting mid-way through 1913 until 1938). For Jefferson nickels (steps have vertical lines bracketing steps). For Standing Liberty Quarters dated 1917 that show a covered breast.
TBN- Taco Bell Napkin, claims have been made that these brown napkins accelerate silver coin toning.
TGP - Third Party Graders
TGS - Third-party Grading Service (also known as TPGS)
TPN - ?
TTT - To The Top
UHR- Ultra High Relief $20 gold struck in 2009, dated MMIX
VEDS - Very Early Die States
VEMS - Very Early Middle States
V - Very
WANNABE - Usually pertains to a fly-by-night dealer who thinks of himself as an expert or the collectors friend. Often in it for the money only. Can also pertain to a collector who hasn't paid his dues.
WB - Wiley Bugert classification of varieties for Liberty Seated Half Dollars
White elephant - Error missed by mint QA, then by grading service, on high $ coin (gold)
Widget- Coin by Legend for common run of the mill coins, like common date Morgans.
WTC Coins - World Trade Center coins (coins minted from silver recovered from the site)
YN - Young Numismatists

Mint Marks

C- Charlotte, North Carolina. Gold coins struck between 1838 and 1861.
CC- Carson City, Nevada.1870 thru 1893.
D- Dahlonega, Georgia, Gold coins struck between 1838 thru 1861.
D- Denver, Colorado. 1906 to the present.
D/D- Repunched mintmark. Dahlonega over Dahlonega.
D/S- Mintmark error. Denver over San Francisco.
O- New Orleans, Louisiana. 1838 to 1909.
O/CC- Mintmark error. New Orleans over Carson City.
O/S- Mintmark error. New Orleans over San Francisco.
P- Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. War nickels, 1942 - 1945; dollars, 1979 to present;
all other denominations,1980 to present.
S- San Francisco, California. 1854 to present.
S/D- Mintmark error. San Francisco over Denver.
W- West Point. 1984 to present.

BNB Analytics · 10-21-2009, 08:26 PM

Heh wow, that was really sweet of you to post. Thanks...

**Daggarjon** · 10-21-2009, 08:55 PM

nice post - but items like edited and simlair items really shouldnt be listed... ya' know?

**green18** · 10-21-2009, 09:02 PM

Why? I think they apply (LOL). Great post Charmy......

Because they are against forum rules !

rlm's cents · 10-21-2009, 09:06 PM

Quote:

TGP - Third Party Graders

OOPS!!!

Quote:

D/D- Repunched mintmark. Dahlonega over Dahlonega.

And not Denver over Denver?

The Penny Lady · 10-21-2009, 09:19 PM

Hey, I only plagiarized, no filtering involved!

Unh huh - next time either edit first or don;t bother posting it !

bullnuke · 10-21-2009, 09:54 PM

Great post, but isn't the "1883 N/C" refering to liberty nickels not shield nickels?

tmoneyeagles · 10-21-2009, 10:03 PM

edited That is messed up!

LOL
Thanks for posting this Charmy!

quartertapper · 10-21-2009, 10:40 PM

editedand "TPN" was an abreviation for "train pressed nickel." Of course I could be way off on the second one!

mark_h · 10-21-2009, 11:39 PM

Yep - a few need to be edited out of the list for this forum. Probably could add a few that get used here on occasion - LWC Lincoln Wheat Cent, DBC Draped Bust Cent, etc.

Never been a big fan of acronyms, but understand the necessity.

BNB Analytics · 10-21-2009, 11:44 PM

edited

You know what..

This should be stickied IMHO.

chip · 10-22-2009, 12:36 AM

Thanks, maybe there should be an acronym dictionary just so we can look up what people mean, I sometimes try to guess and I usually guess wrong what some of those alphabet soup initials mean. the first time I saw LMAO, I thought they were saying they loved chairman mao.

Just Carl · 10-22-2009, 02:11 AM

I know that many try to help others with information but wouldn't it have been much easier to just reference the numerous places where such terminology is listed. If I remember correctly there is a complete listing much greater than this on the PCGS web site. Also, I've seen such listings in many other places. Such a post here gets lost after a few days so why not just reference the places such lists show up. Expecially when they are much, much more complete.

The Penny Lady · 10-22-2009, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Carl

I know that many try to help others with information but wouldn't it have been much easier to just reference the numerous places where such terminology is listed. If I remember correctly there is a complete listing much greater than this on the PCGS web site. Also, I've seen such listings in many other places. Such a post here gets lost after a few days so why not just reference the places such lists show up. Expecially when they are much, much more complete.

Carl, I already said in my post where this information came from - the PCGS forum - and don't you think I would have posted other or better references had I KNOWN of them?

I'm sorry if this information isn't helpful to you but it seems to be helpful to some others, but if you feel there is better or "much, much more complete" coin lingo, please, by all means, let us know how we can access it.

With all due respect, I am curious to know why you wouldn't have simply posted such links here or on another post?

Arizona Jack · 10-22-2009, 02:40 AM

Charmy, As much as I like Carl, get used to the sour grapes.....it is very typical.

By the way,you forgot coin show lingo.....such as

MMATBATS- Meet me at the bar after the show
PWMYCAI- Poker with me? You can't afford it.
SYARB- See you at Rock Bottom
JIDHIBDA- Jack is drunk, he is buying dinner again.
JCGAA-Jack Campbell got arrested again
IBTCTKWMA- I brought those Coin Talk kids with me again

lol, see folks, I still chime in here and try to keep a smile.

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