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Here's a 1922 peace dollar that I don't know if it's a double die or not on the date and it also has a die crack from the G in God we trust to the neck place. I need help to tell me what vam this is I get so frustrated I want to know please help me.

Thank you Brad

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Why is nobody helping me on here?
Brad

Abacus Coins

The pictures are small, especially the first one, it's hard to tell. What do you think it is? A die break or DDO?

coins are us

I don't know I need help with it i will try and enlarge the pics ok.
Thanks Brad

rockdude

Sorry, just getting to this. I have to agree with Abacus coins here. What do you see? What is the mint mark if any?
Here's a site that might help.
http://www.vamworld.com/1922-P+VAMs

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What i see is like a line going through the G of God to the neck area and the doubling looks like machine doubling could you help me to see what vam it is . Could this be a vam with a die crack and machine doubling is there a listing for that.
Thanks for well some help.
Brad

rockdude

Without clearer pictures the best I can do is; maybe a Vam 2AN or a Vam 2BB.

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I don;tthink neither one of the the vams you posted is my coin what about the machine doubling doesn't that make it a new vam i thought machine doubling counts as a vam listing to?

So what vam could it be with both machine doubling on the date and a die crack running from the G in God to the neck area doesn't that make it fall in a different cataglory as a new vam with the both errors on it ?

That's why i don't think it's neither one of the ones you posted.

Thanks anyway for your help much apreciated
Brad

rockdude

Since machine doubling is damage and not part of the die it probably wouldn't be listed. But that's just an opinion.

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desertgem

No, machine doubling would not be considered in determining the VAM. The VAM # is the combination of a specific obverse die and a specific reverse die used in striking the coin. Later the use of suffixes for things such as clash marks appeared such as 1A, etc. Now with the greater interest, ( and greater financial rewards) there are even double suffixes, or possible even more, identifying die markers, but the "root" VAM number should be the same.

And you are correct, it is MD.

Jim

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Well I went back to vam world and there is a seperate listing for machine doubling itis considered a vam ,Vam 2
I was right.

The only thing there's not a Vam listed for the both combinations on the coin with the die crack ,and the MD ,The die crack is listed as a seperate Vam also.Vam 2AN

I guess the Vam world looks at Md as an important thing to list it speratetly as a Vam,

So I still don't know what vam my coin is with Both MD and the Die crack i guess there has to be a new Vam number refered to this coin .

I think my coin should be listed as 2CP machine doubling on the date ,and a die crack running from The G in God to the neck area
Thanks for trying to help me eveybody
Brad

bhp3rd

I do not see anything as far as doubled die goes and the die crack is just a die crack, these are very common on Peace $'s.
Just in case you do not know yet and for your help the term is "doublED die" not just "double" - it makes a big difference in the understanding of die varieties, ie: the die was doubled during hubbing.

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cherylkubucko

As the photos are to small, it is hard to tell about the die crack, Here is my 1922 Peace dollar.

Definition: Mechanical doubling, also called machine doubling or strike doubling, a form of doubling which appears on a coin and is easily confused with doubled die strikes. On a true doubled die coin, the doubling comes from a mistake in the process used to make the coin die itself. In mechanical, or machine doubling, the doubled image results from mechanical issues during the striking of the coin, such as the coin shifting during striking, or the die itself being jarred out of position as a result of vibration or improper coin press maintenance. Mechanical, machine, and strike doubling are all considered by purists to be forms of damage, and are therefore not collectible as an error coin.

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I read somewhere that machine doubling was considered an error that's what is confussing to me, but i do honestly don't remember were somebody with a big name guy said this ,well thank you very much fior your great pictures Cherrykubuko
Brad

cherylkubucko

It is hard sometimes because everyone has a hand in what is errors or not, I felt the same way as you, any error from the mint of any kind is an error , Good Luck Cheryl

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