1959 Washington Type B Reverse?

I think this forum should be called Errors and Varieties, so I'm posting this here. Plus, I like you error people. Just got my Cherry Picker's Guide V. 2 and have been going through what few "big" coins I have and found 2 of these. I looked at the grainy black and white images in TCPG and tried to find resources on the internet, but would like a 2nd opinion. I even saw somewhere online that there is a type C. What do you think?

 

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Looks like the type B to me, nice find.

Here's some pics of the 3 reverses (A,B,C)

Rev A: http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/coop49/Quarters_Type_A_Business_reverse.jpg

Rev B: http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/coop49/Quarters_Type_B_proof_reverse.jpg

Rev C: (last pic, it's like reverse A, only sharper arrow heads)http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/coop49/Quarters_Type_A_B_C.jpg

 

raider34-
Great links! Thanks.

 

No problem, and one more thing, the type C reverse is only found on the 1964 D quarters.

* The type C reverse is from the mint using 1965 reverse dies, (that were supposed to strike the clad quarters), to strike the silver quarters, so the details on the arrow tips are sharper. So any type C reverse after 64' is the normal reverse.

 

Good to know. However, I found one on a 1959 which had the word copy stamped on it, which I promptly polished off. Wanna buy it?

 

Great coin
jallengomez

 

Two things to be said. This is a Type B reverse.

And I just noticed something screwy with the Cherrypickers' Guide. Fourth Edition Volume II.

I don't know if it is the same in all editions or if they figured this out yet...But...

Page 152 has the correct pictures under the correct headings.

BUT...every individual listing for a Type B Quarter shows the correct ES but they have the wrong arrow points. It looks like the used the Type C arrow points under every Type B listing.

Somebody else check and let me know if I'm nuts.

Thanks,
Bill

 

Bill,

Mine has the same error.

Thanks for catching that,

Jody

 

Boy, no wonder these are sometimes listed incorrectly on FleaBay

 

I think those are outstanding photos. Don't know much about Washington Varieties though.

 

I really appreciate the post...Thanks! :hail:

 

I concur, nice photos!

Those are some nice reference photos, thanks for posting

 

Very Nice B reveres

 

You are correct, the only picture correct is the one on page 205 and of course 152.

 

Didn't even notice this last night when I discovered them, but am I reading my Cherrypicker's rareness index correctly? There are only 5-8 of these known to exist?

 

Also, I know for a fact the very bank these were delivered to from the mint. It's in a small town. Does this mean if I scour the town I might find more, or would the distribution from the mint have been random and it's just coincidence that I had two of them that likely came out of the same bag or roll? Both from the same source. A banker who had pulled two of each denom from that year and put them in small plastic coin bags.

 

Hi,

I've mentioned this before. The numbers in the Cherrypickers' guide and numbers like Population reports for slabs are basically useless.

They don't tell you how many of something could be sitting around in collections and they don't tell you how many are sitting around unreported.

I have coins here that would blow some numbers and population reports on some coins to smithereens.

Somebody created those numbers to create a sense of rarity that is not accurate at all.

Thanks,
Bill

 

Note: I'm copying this over from another thread...no sense having two.


Does anyone know how common the Type B variety is? Breen talks about the two (2) varieties as though they could have an equal population. The Cherrypicker's Guide lists a 6x price multiple on the Type B Rev and PCGS lists a 10x multiple...(PCGS only lists the 1956 Type B Rev, but I assume that price applies to the other dates as well). NGC and the Redbook don't list the Type B Rev at all.

The reason I ask is that I've searched six (6) rolls so far...three (3) 1957 rolls and three (3) 1958 rolls. Out of those rolls I've found 20 and 21 Type B Reverses, respectively. That's a 6:1 ratio which matches the price ratio in Cherrypicker's. Does that sound high, low, or about right? Thoughts?

Edit: According to Cherrypicker's (page 150)...the Type B Reverse from 1956-1964 is "scarce to very scarce". I guess 41 coins out of 240 is pretty good! Perhaps some years are more common than others.

 

Hey Tom, I don't know how common these are, but I must say out of all the Type B reverses that I have found, they have been (2) 1959 and (3) 1964. I don't know why, but those are the most common for me.

Also, I just wanted to point out this little bit of "trivia".....why are all the Type B reverses only on the Philly coins and not the Denver ones? It is the same reason that I pointed out in the Franklin Half type 2 thread.....

Answer... because that is where all the proofs were made. Remember, this reverse was supposed to be used on all the proof coins. It was inadvertently used on business strike coins and the reason being is because they were used at the same mint. If you want to strike it big....find a type B reverse on a Denver quarter.

 

I not sure were I heard this but 1958 & 1960 are claimed to be the rarer B rev.I most likely read in Coin World or an other coin mag