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07-08-2009, 12:46 PM
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My Mood: | How can I tell? I come from a long line of old dead people.
Some were "Being of sound, mind I spent my money while I was alive" types.
Some were Scottish. 
and German & Irish & English & Railroaders & Natives to all kinds of places.
It has been discovered by the thinning family tree that some of the nonperishable stuff trickling down the inevitable hourglass of time is.......lots of old stuff.
Tokens/trinkets/coinage/deeds/past due taxes on stuff no longer owned and even chaff used for Christmas Tree decorations from WWII still exist.
My mistake was saying something like "Some of this stuff may appreciate, like the old currency."
So now I must figure out what it is/has been/may be.
So to begin my "Wheats from the Chaff" adventure I turned here.
Anybody know what this is? About 34mm of it left and it seems to have had a reeded edge. |
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07-08-2009, 01:18 PM
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I believe it is a George IV(UK) halfcrown. Bare head, second reverse(3809). Minted between 1824 and 1829. Man!, I have never seen one worn that much before. |
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07-08-2009, 02:03 PM
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Thanx for a place to start!
I had NO idea. May have been a talisman rub piece to someone.
I've thought of getting melting a pot just so I can get through this stuff!
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07-08-2009, 02:46 PM
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It may have been used as a pocket piece...
Let's see your other stuff |
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07-08-2009, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Magman It may have been used as a pocket piece...
Let's see your other stuff  | Gramps pocket piece was a Colt .25
& I still have it.
When the chores are all done I'll head to the shed and try some more photo's of other stuff.... |
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07-08-2009, 04:39 PM
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My Mood: | Where to start
I wanted to start with the obvious stuff that can be identified.
or should I define the obscured no longer readable metal first?
(Yes there are more than a few Not so Buff Nickles and standing Libs quarters....and walking Libs...and Merc Dimes...and Franklins)
This project began with a book, so don't even go there!
But the included Family 15th Edition R.S.Yeoman (1962) only took us so far.
So now I have acquired a current 2009 Red Book.
We've got excess stuff and we need to clean house. I do not know what most of this stuff is, which is why I'm searching here so I don't just melt down the wrong stuff.
Like this thing. Should I start with a Geiger counter? Some of my kin were into that.
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07-08-2009, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by byrd740 I believe it is a George IV(UK) halfcrown. Bare head, second reverse(3809). Minted between 1824 and 1829. Man!, I have never seen one worn that much before.  | Wonderful! You allowed my Dad~in~Law to remember how it made it to Texas from Scotland!
now what is a second reverse(3809)? This coin Has no reverse.
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07-08-2009, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RUFUSREDDOG Wonderful! You allowed my Dad~in~Law to remember how it made it to Texas from Scotland!
now what is a second reverse(3809)? This coin Has no reverse. | Did I say second, I meant third. There are three different kinds of reverses But only the bare headed king (not the the laureate) has the third reverse. 3809 is the number used by Spink to identify this coin (similar to a Y# or KM#)
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07-08-2009, 09:44 PM
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I think they would make grand washers. Ripley
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07-09-2009, 10:46 AM
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My Mood: | Some other stuff Quote:
Originally Posted by Magman It may have been used as a pocket piece...
Let's see your other stuff  | At least I could read the date on whatever this is.
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07-09-2009, 01:42 PM
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Loooks like Carlos III of Spain I think it might be Mexico city mint mark but I am not 100% certain nor can I make out the value
Just had another look is that a figure 2, I see just below Carlos?
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07-09-2009, 01:50 PM
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I like the UK half crown very much! It looks great even in this condition.
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07-09-2009, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by (v) I like the UK half crown very much! It looks great even in this condition. | Yeah, I'm surprised that it's so aesthetically pleasing with that amount of wear!
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07-09-2009, 04:31 PM
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Definitely a 1762 Pillar
The Mo indicates the Mexico City mint.
Can't make out the denomination. Doesn't look like an 8 Reales. Looks like a '6'. Not sure that was made. Do you have a size and weight on the puppy??
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07-09-2009, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by De Orc Loooks like Carlos III of Spain I think it might be Mexico city mint mark but I am not 100% certain nor can I make out the value
Just had another look is that a figure 2, I see just below Carlos? |
Yes, it is a 2 reales.
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