1932 S Washington Quarter

Hello everyone. I am new to this forum. I just recently bought this coin from my local coin dealer and did everything in my power to tell if it is counterfeit or a genuine, regardless of the fact that it is in an NGC slab. In my opinion, it is a genuine coin, but I would like some extra opinions as well. You cant tell from the picture but it has a die crack running through "bus" in "e pluribus" and another die crack from the back of the eagles head to it's wing. I also understand that 1932 S washington quarters have a weak strike variety and this coin definately exibits that with the motto "in god we trust". If these pictures aren't good enough I will try again, but my camera sucks. The S mintmark also looks "boxy" as opposed to a "curvy" S. Thanks for looking and I will appreciate any input.

 

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Die cracks are a pretty good indicator that the coin is genuine.

It is also in an NGC slab. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be genuine.

 

welcome to CT. From the pics it appears to be real.

 

If it's in a genuine NGC slab, the coin is genuine....mistakes like that are VERY slim by NGC.

 

Agreed, and if it is not, it is guaranteed. No worries.

 

Nice coin and welcome.

 

Welcome to CoinTalk.

That's a nice coin, and it's probably genuine. My question for you is, why would you purchase an uncirculated key-date coin without having studied the series enough to be able to tell if a coin is likely genuine? That's a lot of money to risk on someone else's word. Just a piece of friendly advice: Spend a few bucks on some good coin books to get an education on the coins you want to collect. Also, if you are fortunate enough to have access to coin shows, go study various examples so you can get a sense of what a genuine coin should look like.

 

I've done alot of research on this date/mintmark, and I can tell you that your coin is 100% real.
I would love to see close up shots of your MM if you have time, and also the die crack coming out of the eagles head.

Depending on the direction that the die crack takes, your MM will look alittle different....also, the die crack coming out of the bust is not always there. I believe that we could lable that a LDS.

Speedy

 

If it's NGC its 99.99% probablility its good. They make few mistakes.

 

If the slab is genuine the coin is kosher.

 

I agree. If there is any doubt, I would call NGC customer service and inquire. They keep good records of counterfeit slabs, and should be able to answer your question more authoritatively than anyone on here (with all due respect to those who have posted)....Mike

 

Thanks for your input everyone. I just found out that there is supposed to be a raised die mark obove the "D" in "dollar" and mine has it. Does that prove that its genuine or does that simply make it more probable to be genuine? Does anyone know any more diagnostics that would make it more probable that the coin is real? Also, what does LDS mean and does anyone know any good books based on counterfeit/genuine washington quarters? Thanks again.

 

The die mark (and die crack) does speak to the coin being genuine -- but it doesn't prove anything. Quite frankly, really there's nobody in the world who can be sure with only photos, much less photos as small as those you've posted.

Please take my advice, rest assured your coin is authentic if it is in an NGC holder, and call them tomorrow to be sure it's not one of the countrefeit ones.

Then you can sleep easy knowing your coin is genuine, and you have the NGC company who stands behind it.

FWIW, I have NEVER heard of a counterfeit 32-D in an NGC holder, nor have I heard of modern coins like this being in couterfeit holders. I'd say your coin is 99.9% assured of being genuine, and 99.999999999% chance if you call NGC tomorrow and confirm the info described above.

Good luck, and please let us know what happens....Mike

p.s. LDS is late die state.

p.p.s. There are several good books on counterfeit coins -- others more familiar with the topic will have to comment, but I found the "PCGS Coin Grading Guide This Official Guide to Coin Grading and Counterfeit Detection" has a good section on the topic of counterfeits. There's also a great class taught at the ANA each year (with a correspondence course if you join the ANA -- highly recommend as you will learn A LOT).

 

Yours is 100% real. As I said before...I've research these for sometime now, you can ask other members here about that, and just from what you talked about, the die crack, etc, I'm sure you have a real coin. Also, fakes in NGC slabs, don't come around often. With both of those side by side, you can rest easy.

Speedy

 

While I stop short of 100% (perhaps the cynic in me), you can trust what Speedy writes on this topic implicitly.

 

Sorry it took me so long to get back. I asked a few coin dealers around my area and they all agreed that it was genuine. Thanks for your feedback every1.

 

Very nice key date. Definitely genuine IMO.

 

It is like a $600 coin (I'd say), to make a passable fake and put it in a fake slab would probably take craftsmanship, time and materials that cost more than $600. Now if the market were flooded with fake NGC slabs it may be different..

 

600 $ quarter. you neednt say that agin. Joe when are we going quarter searching

 

Why hasn't anyone recommended NGC's verification?

Jeff, you can go to NGC's website and if you sign up for free, you have access to nice tools on their site. If you click on the tab NGC Research, a drop down shows up. Select the fourth one down- "Verify NGC Certification".

Everybody here can enter in the serial number off your slab and look at and blow up pictures of it in their registry. Granted, they're a little blurry but they're full screen. Your quarter has plenty of characteristics to verify that it's the same one NGC has in their photo registry.

It doesn't prove that an NGC grader made or didn't make a mistake...... but it does at least prove that the slab hasn't been popped open and the orginal replaced with a fake.

See here: http://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/index.aspx

Hope that helps you in the future.