johnny54321

What would you grade this? The seller had it listed as an XF, but it appears better than that to me. I'm far from an expert on buffs though.

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cncman

You pick that up for XF money and you are doing real well, nice coin. looks to me like an AU slider.

mikenoodle

I'd pay XF money for that coin all day long and twice on Sunday!

You made a good buy IMHO.

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Leadfoot

Looks nicer than XF to me too, but that reverse rim gash is problematic.

jello

EF for sure!!!

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mrbrklyn

It looks just a shade below AU to me. Just a shade of wear on the Buffalo shoulder.

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mikenoodle

I wouldn't be surprised if that was weak strike, Ruben. Look at the die degradation in the area of the rim and E Pluribus Unum, as these dies wore this area started to noticably degrade. These letters are weak and blending into the field, so IMHO, the area you are looking at is due to weak strike, and not wear. Luster breaks are hard to tell from pics though, and so I suggest an in-hand examination to determine whether this is weak strike or wear.

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mikenoodle

P.S. If this seller consistently grades coins like this, I'd have to look at everything he's selling. There may be some real bargains!

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mrbrklyn

I agree 100% and I noticed the lettering. But from what I can see of from the photograph there seems to be definite luster break on the cheek of the Indian and the change in coloration I don't think can be attributed to strike. But the details seem to be AU with the possible exception of the shoulder area. Can that be weak strike? Maybe, but their is wear on the obverse which makes me discount the probability of that. The main issue at this point is luster. If the coin has original luster then I don't see any reason why this coin isn't AU53. At worst this coin, IMO, is just a shade below AU.
And as I recall, these coins are famous for their terrific strikes.

Ruben

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GDJMSP

I agree, weak strike. But not due to die wear IMO. More likely badly adjusted dies. The strike is too stong elsewhere, the coin even has finning.

That said, I wouldn't buy this coin on a bet. Body-bag material.

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mrbrklyn

also there is some action going on in the "FIVE CENTS"

Ruben

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Ruben

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mikenoodle

not even as an XF Doug?

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GDJMSP

Not even as an XF. The rim dings, 5 o'clock obv and 6 rev will bag that coin. Why buy a problem coin when multitudes of problem free examples are out there ?

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mrbrklyn

I don't see any hard rim dents. I see some kind of what looks like a scrape or errosion on the top of the obverse of the rim and on the bottom of the reverse, but I thought that had to be a minting issue.

Ruben

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