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01-13-2009, 05:01 AM
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OK - I hope this makes you feel better...
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01-13-2009, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbrklyn
OK - I hope this makes you feel better... | it doesnt looka t all those spots |
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01-13-2009, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by spock1k it doesnt looka t all those spots  | nah - those are on the case
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01-14-2009, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbrklyn nah - those are on the case | oh i am in love. i need to send you money so you can go coin hunting for me if that other guy doesnt deliver to you. I hope you have paypal. I forgot to ask do you have submission rights to NGC/PCGS by any chance. i might get an expensive coin here pretty cheap ( a one in a million shot literally and i would love to see the coin in a tomb  )
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01-14-2009, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by spock1k oh i am in love. i need to send you money so you can go coin hunting for me if that other guy doesnt deliver to you. I hope you have paypal. I forgot to ask do you have submission rights to NGC/PCGS by any chance. i might get an expensive coin here pretty cheap ( a one in a million shot literally and i would love to see the coin in a tomb  ) | Nah - I don't have submittal rights In fact, there is a great Merc I have that badly needs a new case. I doubt I have paypal either. Let me talk to my friend that does a lot of ebay business and see what he says.
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01-14-2009, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbrklyn The symbolism completely escapes me/
Ruben | This coin is one of the many imitations, that carried on for centuries, of the Sassanian drachm design used from about 300-650 AD in Persia. The obverse is an extremely stylized bust facing right (hair flowing left), and the reverse is an extremely stylized fire alter, attendants with raised arms on either side (only arms visible).
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01-14-2009, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by acanthite This coin is one of the many imitations, that carried on for centuries, of the Sassanian drachm design used from about 300-650 AD in Persia. The obverse is an extremely stylized bust facing right (hair flowing left), and the reverse is an extremely stylized fire alter, attendants with raised arms on either side (only arms visible). |
Thanks. That bust doesn't resemble a bust at all to me. What is the dots?
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01-15-2009, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbrklyn Thanks. That bust doesn't resemble a bust at all to me. What is the dots?
Ruben | Many of the dots would originally have been characters in Pahlavi script.
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02-26-2009, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by acanthite This coin is one of the many imitations, that carried on for centuries, of the Sassanian drachm design used from about 300-650 AD in Persia. The obverse is an extremely stylized bust facing right (hair flowing left), and the reverse is an extremely stylized fire alter, attendants with raised arms on either side (only arms visible). | I can't seem to find more inofmration on this dynasty or any coinage.
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02-26-2009, 08:12 PM
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02-26-2009, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by De Orc | Yup and it is listed on the web page. my exact coin isn't on that site.
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02-27-2009, 09:13 PM
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One thing you need to remember Ruben that these coins were made by hand, no two would be exactly the same  so to have a exact match might not be possible also you might have a variety that he has not seen |
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01-16-2009, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbrklyn I picked this coin up at the show yesterday from the same gentleman who sold me the Satrap coins. | It’s a very interesting coin.
If you visit Saurastra/Rajsthan today, don't be surprised if you receive a similar coin in change after some market transaction. I have received few in return while visiting those areas.
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Ballabh Garg
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01-17-2009, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bgarg It’s a very interesting coin.
If you visit Saurastra/Rajsthan today, don't be surprised if you receive a similar coin in change after some market transaction. I have received few in return while visiting those areas.
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Ballabh Garg | You get a 1500 year old silver coin in change? How do they quantify its monetary value?
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02-02-2009, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbrklyn You get a 1500 year old silver coin in change? How do they quantify its monetary value? | The two person involved in a transaction has to agree on an exchange value and the transaction happens.
More then 10 years ago, I received this coin from a fruit vendor. When I asked him how he got this coin, he said a villager bought this coin and he exchanged it for one kilogram of banana. When I paid for my fruits purchase, I asked him to add the price of one kilo of banana and received this coin in return.
There are no coin dealers in that region where somebody can go and exchange these coins. And these were the coins of general public they used for so long that everybody in market accepts it based on their experience.
I was in that region in August last year and when talking to a local collector; he said that now a day, people go directly to some local jeweler to exchange them for money. The jeweler either melts them or sells those to few coin dealers in Bombay.
Later that month, I was talking to a history professor in Delhi and she told me that recently some villager in that area found several huge pots buried in one farm. The pots contained more then half million of those coins. Those were deposited with History department of Delhi University for research. Once they completed their research, some will go in various museums and rest of them will be sold in market.
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Ballabh Garg
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