Thread: 1652 New England Coin

Hey I Have A 1652 New England Coin. I'm Not Trying To Sell It But I Want To Know If It Is Worth Anything. I Am New To The Coin Thing Would Really Appreciate The Help.

It is supposed to be a 1652 MASSACHUSETTS
"OAK TREE" coin, but I am reasonably sure it is a counterfeit. Can you tell us how big it is ?

where did you get it? cos if it's real it'll be worth alot.

Yeppers! Just like GD said, we need diameter and weight. Also, you need to do a magnet test with it (see if it's magnetic) then let us know the results.

Ribbit

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Originally Posted by HandsomeToad

Yeppers! Just like GD said, we need diameter and weight. Also, you need to do a magnet test with it (see if it's magnetic) then let us know the results.

Ribbit

Ps: Welcome to CoinTalk!

if it is magnetic what does it mean??

Originally Posted by billsaxon

if it is magnetic what does it mean??

If it is magnetic, its a fake.

Quite a find if it's real.

The style of the numbers in the date is way off. The coin is counterfeit!

I'm voting fake, the lettering doesn't match the real deal.

My two-cents:

• Not a Willow Tree Sixpence. There was only one die combination for that type, and the specimen in question doesn't match.
• Not a contemporary Oak Tree Sixpence. The reverse attribution resembles somewhat a Noe-19, however, the obverse does not. And it is my understanding that there is no other specimen with a die combination that includes a reverse Noe-19.
• Not a Pine Tree Sixpence. No matching obverse and reverse attributions for any sixpence specimens.

All that said:

• The obverse tree roots look a bit "funny". And they match no varieties whatsoever in Whitman or Breen's - including other denominations. The "I" in 'VI' also looks a bit "funny".
• Vlack and August consider the Noe-19 a 19th century reproduction. It would be unknown if perhaps it is an unattributed reproduction. But the probability of that is rather low. ANS has a Noe-19, and as per Newman, there are only 2 other known specimens of the Noe-19 variety itself.

Therefore, it is probable that it is a modern counterfeit.

Definitely a counterfeit.

looks like pot metal

just the other day i found this coin in a little coin purse and would just like to know if it looks authentic or a fake. thank you for any input ahead of time. The added pictures are about the best i can get right now. it measures approx. 1" in diameter and is approx 7-8 grams in weight. that is just using a home scale so i don't know how accurate it really is. i also did the magnetic test and it is not magnetic.

shortyscwater17 -> your posted photos are a bit small, and were shot at an angle where it's difficult to fully see your specimen. Please post larger photos of the obverse and reverse, preferable ones where the camera shots are directly over the specimen.

Thanks.

...not trying to **** on your parade or anything like that...but I do agree that there needs to be some basic tests done to try and detect a counterfeit. Of course start with the magnet thing. Do some research on the original coins and I'm sure you'll find that someone out there has written an article here and there about how to detect colonial counterfeits. If it is in fact a counterfeit, don't panick, these have a collectible value all their own. More and more people are begining to collect counterfeits, especially the old ones. It will most likely still have a collector value if it was a colonial time period counterfeit or something like that. On the other hand if it was a recent one then it won't be worth much at all.