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04-24-2008, 03:51 AM
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| Who now this coin and the value- 1617
Look at the photo please.
Thank you.
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04-24-2008, 04:32 PM
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I would post to the foreign section.
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04-24-2008, 04:42 PM
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It depicts/shows itself as an (British) East India Company Indian 1/2 Anna. Maybe another temple token???
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04-24-2008, 04:52 PM
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Nah, Half-Anna is a currency.
I've found many other coins like this but not this particular one.
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04-24-2008, 05:28 PM
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I bet Spock will know... he likes Indian coins!
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04-24-2008, 05:28 PM
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Yes it is a currency Eddy but when did it come into existance? I seem to recall that the Indian Rupee was divided into Anna sometime under British rule as opposed to the John Company rule, just looked on wiki and it says that the company began issuing coins in the mid 17c!! so it might well be a temple token
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04-24-2008, 05:33 PM
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This looks to me as a modern-made coin for tourists. The lettering and the design are far too modern for a 17th century coin. The maker made his own design. It is even not a copy of an existing 17th century coin.
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04-25-2008, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by De Orc Yes it is a currency Eddy but when did it come into existance? I seem to recall that the Indian Rupee was divided into Anna sometime under British rule as opposed to the John Company rule, just looked on wiki and it says that the company began issuing coins in the mid 17c!! so it might well be a temple token | Bah.
Good info.
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04-25-2008, 02:30 AM
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04-25-2008, 07:53 AM
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| What is the vlue of the coin?
Who have a catlog world coins from 1601-1700 , Can help
me about the value.
Thank you for your responds and
thank to the forum.
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04-25-2008, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by avi400 Who have a catlog world coins from 1601-1700 , Can help
me about the value.
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Some members above have indicated that this is a fantasy piece, meaning it is fake and was created in modern times.
The East India Company had only been on the continent a few years by 1616, was not minting coins, and the denomination 'anna' was not yet being used. I looked through the catalog for 1601-1700 anyway and this design is not listed.
These pieces have been reported in the past, bearing dates 1616, 1617, etc, they are clearly fabrications that apparently were sold on the street in India to tourists.
It would not have any value other than as a fantasy piece.
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04-25-2008, 11:30 AM
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"By a series of five acts around 1670, King Charles II provisioned it with the rights to autonomous territorial acquisitions, to mint money, to command fortresses and troops and form alliances, to make war and peace, and to exercise both civil and criminal jurisdiction over the acquired areas."
Very interesting reading.. for ebay. The above quote from the artical states that the British East India Company was not authorized to mint money until 1670. Is that accurate?
Andy
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04-25-2008, 11:32 AM
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For what it is worth, I found the following CT thread: http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=1883
Refer to a brief history, with pictures, of the East Indian company coinage, here: http://www.geocities.com/jmd_brussels/EURUKE.html
The link you provide says nothing about coinage in 1617, the oldest EIC anna I see for sale there is from 1833.
I do see your coin for sale, though, on eBay, I'm sure there are plenty around. As I said they appear to be available from street vendors.
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04-25-2008, 10:04 PM
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Just checked the 3rd Edition of Standard catalog of World Coins for this coin and nothing there. Seems like a modern fake to me...
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