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Old 01-03-2008, 07:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1817 large cent grade please?

My first large cent and the oldest coin i've ever had...

could anyone give an estimated grade \ value? Sorry the pics are bad

I'll get better ones soon.



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Old 01-03-2008, 08:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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not very good with grading but i would guess VG-8 and the value $15-$17. thats just the ballpark price not actual. cool looking coin! looks kindof dirty but still neat.
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'd say VG but it looks like it is also corroded. That's the 13-Star variety. Grey Sheet is $28 in VG, $22 in G and $18 in AG.
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Fine details, corroded, net VG. Worth about $20.

Regardless, to think you have in your hand a coin that's almost 200 years old for only $20 seems worth it to me!

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p.s. I believe that's a N-7 (a R-3 variety), one of the "mouse" varieties (the "large mouse", IIRC), so called because of the "mouselike" die crumbling just above Liberty's hair and below star #8 (counting clockwise from the left of the date). Check the reverse die, and look for a "doublewide" dentil just above the letter N in UNITED to be sure. Here's an auction to compare your coin to:

http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item...0&Lot_No=19714

It might also be an N-8 here:

http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item...44&Lot_No=6121

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Old 01-03-2008, 10:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Nice coin and I agree F- details, but I am thinking N-8. To me it looks like the 817 has more separation than I see in the N-7 examples. Of course it could be the angle of the picture. In this case you can also see examples on http://www.coinfacts.com. Or post some pictures looking straight down on the coin.
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Mark, I flip flopped twice already. The space between the 1 in the date and the first star was the final straw leaning me towards N-7. I'd love to see larger photos to be sure.
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thanks for the opinions! as promised heres the updated pictures - what do you think?






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Old 01-07-2008, 10:05 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I think I got a deal on it: $12! In 1917 I bet people were saying 'wow' about this coins age! pretty awsome. we figured out my great, great, great, great grandpa coulda spent this coin.
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VF details, severely corroded, net G.

Still, for only $12 I'd say you didn't do too bad.
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p.s. I'll try and confirm the attribution tomorrow, unless someone beats me to the punch....
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I still think it is a N-8.
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Old 01-08-2008, 02:20 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Thanks for the information! i've been checking out coinfacts.com and I cant decide if its a n7 or n8 either! but i'm a complete newbie. Thank you so much! This is a really exciting coin for me
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If you look at coin facts you will see on the N-7 that the 817 on the date is close and on the n-8 the 81 is close while the 1 and 7 are farther from the 81. Still a nice coin!
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