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12-28-2007, 11:11 AM
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Not that Im doubting you guys but - it appears to me that the 1 ,3 & 4 have doubling & there is what looks like a horizontal line that I put an arrow above that looks like part of the 2 -
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04-05-2008, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedy Yes it is a Die Crack. The placement of this die crack has missed up lots of dealers and collectors. If you see something like what the OP posted, check out the 3 for the lower part of the 2, then if you can check out the other numbers and letters for doubling. On the real 1943/2 there is doubling on other parts, but with the die crack everything else is normal. | I meant crack. Oops! I will edit and fix the typo.
Thankies for catching that!
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04-07-2008, 07:52 AM
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Have to agree with Speedy. The orginal pics although appearring to have a 3/2 is cuased by a faint die gouge and not a true over date.
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12-28-2007, 01:21 PM
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Can you get a better photo of the 3....kindof looking like the 3 that I posted...with the light pointing more the other direction. With the pic's you posted I sure don't see the horizontal line...and the line up from the point of the 3, looks more like a die crack.
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12-28-2007, 05:52 PM
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Just a thought---do you see any doubling on LIBERTY, or IN GOD WE TRUST???
It kindof looks like the FS# 5c-029, but I'm not totally sure.
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12-28-2007, 07:10 PM
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Here is a closer look.
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12-29-2007, 01:09 AM
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Jim,
I think your is an overdate!---and I'm hoping that I'm wrong about the OP's coin. Sometimes the way the pic' is taken the light doesn't show all of the die markings.
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12-29-2007, 11:00 AM
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Take a look at this picture. I am not positive but I can see something that looks like the horizontal bar.
Its really hard to tell from the pictures provided. Wish I could see this coin in hand.
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12-29-2007, 11:15 AM
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I think it is a shadow from the lighting source. That is why I asked if he could get pic's with the lighting pointing different directions.
Speedy
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12-31-2007, 02:08 PM
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Jim's is the 3/2 but the OP's is not sad to say. In the Cherrypickers Vol1 it says there is 1943 with a faith die gouge that is often mistaken for the 3/2 and I think thats what the OP's coin is. Thanks for sharing and keep looking the varieties are out there to be Cherried.
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12-31-2007, 02:29 PM
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There also a reference to the 1943 with a die scratch in Minting Varieties and Errors by Alan Herbert. It states "There is a similar die, with a heavy die scratch from the lower tip which goes almost straight up, but it is not an overdate.
Lou
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04-02-2008, 11:45 PM
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here's a pic of mine I just took with that new dynolite camera |
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04-03-2008, 12:01 AM
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I see the over date clearly. In the very top picture. As for Grade, I dont know, from the pictures and not in and, I will say it AU55 at least. As I have seen and looked at A LOT of Nickels in my day.  VERY NICE FIND! You will need to get that one slabbed,
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04-05-2008, 04:44 PM
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The original pic looks to me to be an overdate. The "possible" 2 clearly goes through both loops of the 3, with the upper end protruding from the tip of the 3 and the left corner of the base of the 2 is visible under the 3 at the tip, not on top of the lower loop and although this 3/2 is not in the same position as the one that is understood to be a true 3/2, I would say another die had a similar problem as the one that created the one understood to be a 3/2.
I think you all are looking for an identical 3/2 and not taking into consideration this may be a new version that hasn't been recognized as of yet, because die cracks do not usually extend through and out of the lettering/date! Plus, as someone already pointed out, there is some doubling going on with the 4 and the pic doesn't have the right angle to see the rest of the date. Maybe Jax will take another photo of the entire date so we can see if there's more doubling going on with the date?
Put your glasses on, take a closer look (with an open mind), and maybe you'll see what I see.
Ribbit
Ps: Great coin Jfoot!
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04-05-2008, 04:52 PM
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I'm pretty sure that the OP's nickel is not an overdate. Quote: |
because die clashes do not usually extend through and out of the lettering/date!
| Neither the overdate nor the die crack where caused because of die clashes....?? maybe I'm missing your point?
Speedy
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