Has anyone ever used EZ-est

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by chrisbauman, Nov 7, 2007.

  1. chrisbauman

    chrisbauman New Member

    before?? If so, is it suppose to be like a rubbing compound substance? I got the imppression from doing research on it prior to buying it that it was a liquid substance, but when I bought a container at a local coin show it was more like a rubbing compound substance. I tried it on a few test coins and didn't like the result so I ditched it, but I was just wondering if the container I had wasn't sitting around for two years which explains why it was more like a rubbing compound substance as opposed to a liquid substance, if indeed it is suppose to be a liquid substance. I normally don't bother cleaning coins, but I have a some moderns with fingerprints on them that I want to get off. Yes, I know any type of cleaning is frowned upon, but unfortunately many dealers and collectors do it anyways and these are moderns that aren't worth that much anyways.
     
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  3. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    EZ-est should be a blue liquid.
     
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  4. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    Ezest is a dip, not a rubbing compound. It is EXTREMELY powerful (not to mention toxic), it actually eats away the metal of the coin, which is why if it is used it must be very quick, i.e. less than 10 seconds AT MOST. It will take off toning and, I suppose if left in long enough it'd take off fingerprints too. I would not recommend ezest for taking off fingerprints, though. Acetone will work for that unless the oil from the fingerprints have eaten into the coin.
     
  5. Lemmyk

    Lemmyk Senior Member

    DJ is right, it is very strong, I have used it on some of my coins and they looked great afterward. IF! you are going to use it, definitely experiment on something you won't regret!

    I actually didn't dip them as long as recomended up to ten seconds. I was told by a coin dealer who did warn me that it actually works better on BU coins only, it will wash out any circulated coins (He was right) and it did work out ok, coins came out "blast white" afterward. They were for my Dansco books, so I was pleased. They all kept their mint luster.

    Dip them for a second or two, remove the coin rinse with some fast running cold tap water and used a drop of very mild dish or hand soap and water to make sure I got all of the EZ-est off and pat dry them initially and finished drying them with canned air.
     
  6. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    It works really well for BU coins if used correctly. As stated, it will wash out circulated coins, giving them an unnatural look. I normally use it for Silver Eagles and Modern Commems that have tarnished a bit.
     
  7. gatzdon

    gatzdon Numismatist

    I use the silver cleaner from Walmart ($3), which is really just thiouric acid, on all the proofs I pull out of circulation.

    On these proofs (and BU coins) for taking off something like a fingerprint, less than a second is all you should use. Rinse with water and do a second dip for 1 second if you must, but if the dirt is still there after that, then you are better off leaving it as it probably has altered the metal underneath already.

    Most collectors would rather see the dirt on the coin than a corroded spot (myself included).
     
  8. DoubleDie

    DoubleDie Senior Member

    E-zest is an almost transparent blue liquid. I have used the cleaner before and still have some on hand. I use it on BU coins only, by gently applying with a Q-tip. I have warm water running during this time and never leave on the coin for more than it takes to remove foreign substances.

    It does not take long either. Always use water to neutralize E-zest, never rub the coin, and always "pat" dry the coin with a clothe.
     
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  9. gatzdon

    gatzdon Numismatist


    I just cringed at the thought of using a Q-Tip on a coin. Heck even a toothpick left marks when I tried it a few times.
     
  10. DoubleDie

    DoubleDie Senior Member

    The Q-tip is used to apply the substance, not rub a coin's surface. I have never had any problems using this method, as long as the coin is BU or with or has tape or glue on it. I submit to PCGS several times a year, and haven't got a body bag yet.

    But I have had a lot of practice doing this.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Just as a note of interest, you might find an eyedropper safer to use if you prefer the spot method as opposed to dipping the entire coin.
     
  12. DoubleDie

    DoubleDie Senior Member

    I cover the coin using the Q-tip. I don't bare down on the coin, and as I stated before, have never had any problems.
     
  13. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    i dipped two lincolns in it and was not impressed with results
     
  14. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Nor would anyone. EZest is a mixture of sulfuric acid and thiourea with a colored surfactant, and copper coins do not react in a desirable outcome, as the copper surface is removed, but the underlying "fresh" copper has a pinkish un-natural look for any copper as the original patina from the minting is also removed. Same as using any of the old methods on copper, catsup, lemon juice,vinegar, hot sauce, anything with an acid content. They don't work. That is why there are copper "darkeners" , invented to try and cure the mishap from using a dip, but they are detectable also.
     
  15. DoubleDie

    DoubleDie Senior Member

    As stated, e-zest is not for copper or really for any coin. I have tried it on silver and nickel coins, and only MS examples at that. I don't recommend using this product on coins. I just haven't had any issues with silver coins.
     
  16. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I used EZ est to remove the AT from 2 "clorox toned" coins that were a deep purple black. I diluted it with an equal amount of distilled water, and had the tap in the sink running. I wore gloves and quickly swirled the coin in the solution for a few seconds, then rinsed with running water and blotted dry. Process repeated until the AT was removed, then put the coin in a baking soda solution to neutralize the acid, followed by distilled water rinse.
    The full strength solution is very potent and I would only use it diluted.
     
  17. pratik

    pratik New Member

    How to have a white luster on circulated coins is there any chemical to have a luster on circulated coins if anyone having idea pls share
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Can't be done. True luster is a function of the light on the microscopic flow lines left on the surface of the coin by the movement of the metal during striking. Once those line are destroyed by wear they are gone for good and the luster is gone as well. A chemical dip can make a coin "white" again, but the worn areas will have a much duller appearance than any unworn areas that still have luster. And a heavily worn coin dipped "white" will have a dead washed out appearance to it.

    Closest I have even seen to a chemically restored luster is on copper coins that have been treated with cyanide. (and i don't recommend playing around with that)
     
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  19. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Who was that Coin Seller from the past that was dipping his gold coins in Cyanide while he was drinking? Evidently, he reached over for his drink and ended up grabbing the cyanide and "kilt" hissef!
     
  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    J Sanford Saltus, died 1922, Second Vice President of the ANS 1900 - 1905 and President of the New York Numismatic Club and British Numismatic Society at the time of his death.
     
  21. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    Think I'll stick with acetone or hot distilled water alone and be statisfied w/results. Anyone try steaming w/ distilled water?
     
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