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Old 08-07-2007, 01:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Why cant I find these!!!

I have been searching for quite a while for PCGS or NGC cerified 1982-P or D or 1983-P or D Washington Quarters MS65 or better and I cant find them anywhere. I know that these quarters were probably not saved in huge numbers or maybe not at all. In 1982 there were 500,931,000 quarters made in Philly and 480,042,788 made in Denver. In 1983, there were 673,535,000 quarters made in Philly and 617,806,446 made in Denver. Are these quarters really that scarce in high grades that they're this hard to find? Or, if there were any significant amounts of these hoarded maybe they just havent hit the market yet. You would think that out of over 2 billion coins minted in those two years they wouldnt be that hard to find. Why do you guys and gals think these two particular years are so hard to find in Mint State, beside the fact that there were no mint sets those two years. Most collectors know ahead of time through magazines, coin dealers and inside info from mint employees when there is a certain product the Mint decides not to offer, so why weren't they saved?

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Old 08-07-2007, 01:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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eBay has 2 83-P quarters right now both NGC right now. 1 is 65 and the other is 67. (also, there is a SGS 70). On buy-it-now, thee 2 82-D and a 83-D
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:01 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You answered your own question. Mint sets are the major source for high grade clad. Very few people thought to save bank rolls of these in UNC.
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I think the problem is that not many people sent in those modern coins to be graded?
thats just my theory though.

anyways, if you're interested, here's this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1982-P-D-BU-QUAR...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:59 AM   #5 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=Magman;265383]I think the problem is that not many people sent in those modern coins to be graded?
thats just my theory though.

i agree.

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Old 08-07-2007, 11:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
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The main problem is that there were no Mint Sets produced between 1981 and 1984 (with the exception of a few souvenir sets sold at the Philly Mint). Because rolls of 82s and 83s were not saved at an exceptional rate, they are fairly difficult to find uncirulated, especially in gem.

To give you an idea, current wholesale bid for a roll of uncirculated 1983P quarters is about $820.
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:53 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I think the problem is that not many people sent in those modern coins to be graded?
thats just my theory though.

anyways, if you're interested, here's this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1982-P-D-BU-QUAR...QQcmdZViewItem
Those don't even look BU.
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Old 08-07-2007, 05:37 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:31 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I think the problem is that not many people sent in those modern coins to be graded?
thats just my theory though.

i agree.

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This is true. If your looking for graded modern coins remember that the cost of grading and slabbing may prohibit many people from sending modern coins in.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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http://www.pcgs-certified-coins.com/...n-quarters.htm


http://cgi.ebay.com/Washington-Quart...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/1983-P-MS70-SGS-...QQcmdZViewItem

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Old 08-07-2007, 10:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Your answer is very simple - because there aren't any. For example, NGC has graded a total of 11 '82-P in 65, and 12 '82-D in 65 out of a total of 90 coins submitted. 1983 is a little better - 32 P's and 21 D's in 65 out of 165 coins submitted.
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:07 PM   #12 (permalink)
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This is true. If your looking for graded modern coins remember that the cost of grading and slabbing may prohibit many people from sending modern coins in.

yup, thats what I mean.
its not worth it to send in something like that.
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Old 08-08-2007, 10:57 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Your answer is very simple - because there aren't any. For example, NGC has graded a total of 11 '82-P in 65, and 12 '82-D in 65 out of a total of 90 coins submitted. 1983 is a little better - 32 P's and 21 D's in 65 out of 165 coins submitted.
Well its no wonder then that they're almost impossible to find. Thats good though, I enjoy the challenge.
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