Thread: I really need some help with this coin. I'm confused. 1984 Lincoln

Originally Posted by Zimmy

It's a cud error. Nothing real strange about it. You will notice the weakness on the reverse directly behind the affected area. This area will not strike up due to the lack of pressure caused by the missing die area on the obverse.

This area that you mentioned on the reverse side of this coin is what makes me think it may be PMD. It looks like the coin has taken a hit directly in this area and created a bent place in the coin. this may have been what pushed the C in cent down. in the photos a few places appears to me like a person may be able to see up under the edge this cud looking area. I know photos can be tricky so I'm just giving my opinion and I could easy be wrong.

Right or wrong all opinions and thought are appreciated. I don't think PMD, but I'm gonna take it in to the local shop and see what they say Thursday.

I think it is a retained cud. The weak reverse almost proves that, as the cracked obverse die would not be able to produce the needed pressure to fully strike the coin in that area. A nice find, congrats!

Originally Posted by VDBforDave

Right or wrong all opinions and thought are appreciated. I don't think PMD, but I'm gonna take it in to the local shop and see what they say Thursday.

That's the best way to find out for sure what you have is to let someone that knows error coins have a close up look. In the case of coin shops some of the shops don't have anyone that collects errors and other coin shops is owned by error experts. I'm hoping that you have a error coin here , there are a few things like the bent place that don't look just right.

Guys.....you are making this harder than it is. This is a typical cud error example, nothing exotic. I just looked it up in the Cud book and it's listed as LC-84-14. Don't waste your time taking it to a coin shop that probably has little experience in errors. You have a cud. Congratulations!

Originally Posted by Zimmy

Guys.....you are making this harder than it is. This is a typical cud error example, nothing exotic. I just looked it up in the Cud book and it's listed as LC-84-14. Don't waste your time taking it to a coin shop that probably has little experience in errors. You have a cud. Congratulations!

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Originally Posted by mikenoodle

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Do you have a link Zimmy? I couldn't find LC 84 14 anywhere!

Originally Posted by VDBforDave

Do you have a link Zimmy? I couldn't find LC 84 14 anywhere!

Kinda hard to link something thats in a book, but the book is here

http://www.amazon.com/The-cud-book-S.../dp/B0006FA270

They also came out with a supplement in 2001 thats available as a pdf

http://www.keysquality.com/downloads/2001supplement.pdf

The LC-84-14 is not in the supplement, you may be interested in buying the book though.

Just ordered the book, thanks for a quick early morning reply! Looking forward to learning about cuds!

I'm still thinking retained cud since the rim is still present in the cud area.

If it was a retained cud, wouldn't the lettering still be there?

Originally Posted by Conder101

I'm still thinking retained cud since the rim is still present in the cud area.

Seems like this is what the mojority of y'all think it is. Lemme ask this however. What would cause the top of Lincoln's hair to show up on the very bottom of the cud?

Wouldn't a cud leave a feature raised above the field of the coin? From the photographs the area in question appear to be below the fields. I'd guess pmd or struck through.

Originally Posted by justafarmer

Wouldn't a cud leave a feature raised above the field of the coin? From the photographs the area in question appear to be below the fields. I'd guess pmd or struck through.

How would this be a strike through? Your saying the coin got split upwards to create the clip? And wouldn't the letters still be showing at the top?