Censored eBay?

Anyone think this guy is a little PO'ed at ebay? http://cgi.ebay.com/CENSORED-Coin-C...em&pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item2308eeff3c. Too bad he did not actually bother to read their regulations.

 

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eBay isn't going to do anything if you say, "I have the coin graded at MS65, but grading is subjective, people grade coins differently, so there is no guarantee to what the grade is, grade for yourself via the pictures"
This guy is taking it to an extreme to prove a point, and odds are, due to the nonsense of all of this, he will get less than what those coins are worth. It'll confuse people for sure.

 

Actually, eBay won't do anything even if you just say "I have the coin graded at MS65". Or even "I have the coin graded at MS65 by an unauthorized TPG".

 

He forgot to censor this "1964 SEGS-certified Proof-63 Jefferson Nickel, “6 Full Steps.”"

SEGS is not an Ebay approved TPG.

 

I found it very entertaining to read and put it on my watch list if it goes low enough I might make a bid. Ice

 

I've got it on my watch list too. If it goes cheap I wouldn't mind having the S-199. Might be able to use one of the PMG notes for my slab reference collection too.

 

SEGS Coin

I looked for a local ebay seller to sell this SEGS slabbed Morgan Dollar:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1889-Morgan-Sil...90?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a6581f26e

He does not list many coins. To me, the coin looked like a high end "64", shot 65 in one of the approved holders. Any one have thoughts on this listing? His unwillingness to do any type of description is a problem.

 

Are you asking for comments on the auction itself? To me that auction has all the keep away signs - fuzzy pictures. Not even sure if you could put MS65 in the title. That is an auction I would skip.

 

I asked a local ebay seller to run the coin (mine). They are doing a crappy job listing it as you indicated. They are unresponsive to my queries.

The piece has some die-made striations on the cheek. As I said, it looks like a solid 64--shot 65 to me. I probably should have cracked it out and sent it into NGC with another submission as SEGS is not that great.

But the current Greysheet indicated that SEGS coins are worth around 50% of bid or more.

 

The title does violate ebay listing rules. Very poor quality pictures. The pictures would make me either avoid the auction or low ball it. Either way, not a good way to sell coins.

 

Any options at this point? I cannot understand businesses that will not communicate.

 

Using the word SEGS anywhere anytime is against eBay rules as is putting numeric grade in the title.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/currstamps.html

 

But it isn't against the rules to post clear pictures and give positive descriptions of coins like "mint state", "toned", etc.. The ebay seller knows nothing about grading coins and will not allow any comments apparently. I will try to contact ebay to look into the matter. I was just looking for a competant ebay seller to list this coin for me.

 

Ebay say the following on listing coins:
When listing a certified coin, the coin must be certified by one of the following authorized grading companies:

• <LI class=unorderedList>Numismatic Guaranty Corporation (NGC)
  
  <LI class=unorderedList>Numismatic Conservation Services (NCS)
  
  <LI class=unorderedList>Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS)
  
  <LI class=unorderedList>Independent Coin Graders (ICG)
  
• American Numismatic Association Certification Service (ANACS)
  

If the coin listed is not certified by one of these grading companies, the coin is considered raw and uncertified and is subject to additional requirements for sale.
In addition, listings for certified coins must include an image of the item, showing the coin in its graded holder. The image needs to be clear and the grading company, grade, and certification number should easily be readable.
Note: Coins minted before 1980 must show the full front and back of the holder. Coins minted in 1980 or after must show the full front of the holder.



Raw and uncertified coins
A raw or uncertified coin is defined as any coin not graded by an authorized grading company. Sellers can list these items on eBay as long as:

• <LI class=unorderedList>A numeric grade (such as MS-65, VF-25) is not included in the title of the listing. A numeric grade can only be included in the item description.
  
  <LI class=unorderedList>No grading company is referenced in the title or description.
  
  <LI class=unorderedList>No estimate of value (even if personal opinion) or reference to a price guide is included in the title or description.
  
  <LI class=unorderedList>The listing includes a photo of the coin being sold. Images that are dark, out of focus, edited, or might be misleading aren't allowed. Also, stock photos aren't allowed.
  
• Coins that are sealed in original U.S. Mint packaging include a photo showing the actual packaging.
  

So it is not against the rules to give descriptions that are not misleading or untrue. To call the coin CH UNC or BU or GEM would not violate the terms. I have even seen the term "GEM" be used for MS64 coins...

 

It's gone now.

 

Like I said, all I was asking for was a clear picture and a decent description. Not red writing at the bottom almost warning potential buyers. Too bad Teletrade doesn't accept SEGS any longer.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290567198309

The eBay seller was kind enough to do a better photography job this time.

 

Yup
I know if I were to put MS-65 on a PC! Morgan I have it would get yanked in NY min!
I think amount of fee's & how many listing get up a free pass:kewl:

 

Rim's
this the one I was talking about.

 

Thanks. I'll let him know.