Mexican 1975 1 Peso, Type 8 - Date variety question.

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by krispy, Jul 26, 2010.

  1. krispy

    krispy krispy

    I've been going through the world coins I own to organize and label pieces correctly. I'm looking for help identifying the date variety of this Mexican 1975 1 Peso Type 8 coin.

    I was looking at the web site linked to below and trying to figure out my coin from these images but I'm uncertain what I have. I'm also curious about the reference to "Bead: squares" and "Knot: yes" as mentioned on this site.

    http://normansherlock.wixsite.com/un-peso (edited by request)


    I appreciate any help with, what I suppose to be, a simple query.


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    Any suggestions for preferred reference books (in English) on Mexican coinage that would be the equivalent to a Yeoman Red Book would also be appreciated. :smile
     
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  3. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Just giving this thread/question a bump again today.

    Thanks for the views for those who stopped by. :smile
     
  4. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Krispy it appears to be the square beads, short date,knot variety. Reading the post at first, I thought you were seeing 8 varieties for 1975, but the site only has 2, same with my reference material. Not sure if I answered your question.

    Jim
     
  5. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Thanks Jim. I do think you may have answered this for me. I wasn't meaning to imply that many varieties of dates but rather of the Peso coin (pattern?).
    I assume the knot is that of the cloth tied over Morelos' head and positioned at the back of his neck.
     
  6. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Yes, that is the knot. I must apologize for skipping over the thread, but I knew that I didn't know 8 different varieties of the '75 :) I am curious as to why they had so many styles for the years.

    Jim
     
  7. krispy

    krispy krispy

    I was mainly utilizing Coin World's latest World Coins: Mexican Coin Values guide and going by how they break down the 1 Peso coin into nine separate types:

    • 1910-1914 Caballito .9027 Silver, 39 mm - Type 1
    • 1918-1919 Liberty Cap .800 Silver, 34 mm - Type 2
    • 1920-1945 Liberty Cap .720 Silver, 34mm - Type 3
    • 1947-1949 Morelos Facing Right .500 Silver, 32 mm - Type 4
    • 1950 Morelos Facing Left .300 Silver, 32 mm - Type 5
    • 1957 Constitution .100 Silver, 34.5 mm - Type 6
    • 1957-1967 Morelos Facing Right .100 Silver, 34.5 mm - Type 7
    • 1970-1983 Morelos Facing Left Cu-Ni, 27.5 mm - Type 8
    • 1984-1987 Morelos Facing Right Stainless Steel, 24.5 mm - Type 9

    As if it weren't bad enough that the silver composition kept being reduced and flip-flopping portrait kept changing over the last century, between 1970, 1975 - 1983 there are an insane amount of date varieties. With the complexity of this, I just came here seeking advice to get to the root of what I needed a bit of help with. :smile

    ...and this doesn't even get into the modern New Pesos or any others. I'd like to find a decent book that only covers Mexican coinage like the US coins are handled in the Red Book for easier reference, without having to buy a huge World Coins catalog.

    Thanks again. :thumb:
     
  8. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I have in my library

    Mexican Revolutionary Coinage by Guthrie and Bothamley, but just checked Amazon and used is $248 :(
    Condition Grading of Mexico's Modern Coins- by Ulan Amazon-out of print :(
    A guide book of Mexican Coins by Buttrey and Hubbard, Amazon has different editions, organized like the old red books.
    Standard catalog of Mexican coins, paper money and medals by Vogt Amazon '86 edition $85

    I like the last one best. I am glad I found these at local sales over 20 years ago, while they were still available :)

    Jim
     
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  9. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Yes, for some reason books on Mexican coins and Currency that I come across demand quite high prices. I'm sure they are worth the price, even more so if you can locate them used for less than retail. I will run some of those titles through Google Books to see if any are digitized yet... there's a lot on there that's quite useful. Thanks for the info! :thumb:


    edit: I guess I might have some luck consulting the ANA library as well...


    Example title found on Google Books:

    The Mexican revolutionary coinage, 1913-1916 By Howland Wood, American Numismatic Society
     
  10. nss

    nss Gold Plated Member

    You have the "short date" variety.
     
  11. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Thank you. Appreciate the help and the comments on your thread as well.
     
  12. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

    A few I have

    Whitman Encyclopedia of Mexican Money by Don and Lois Bailey. I recommend.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...w?ie=UTF8&condition=new&qid=1421945084&sr=1-1

    Buttrey and Hubbard's guide book of Mexican Coins. Just like the Red Book, look for out of date issues and pick one up cheap.

    Guthrie-Bothanley's Mexican Revolutionary Coinage. I found this "like new" on Amazon about a year ago for $40. I got a steal on this one

    Most used is a DVD version of the 2013 Krause Mexico Coins and prices. This covers just about everything from The Spanish Colonies to 2009. Ready reference right on my desktop.
     
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  13. GSDykes

    GSDykes Well-Known Member

    Your 1975 Peso is short date with square beads. It has the knot as well. The "beads" are the decorations running along the upper edge of the collar. Some are round, some square, with variations. These Pesos are exciting, I mean all of the Pesos in the series. I have an open 8 which I really prize.
     
  14. Tabatha A Wiseman

    Tabatha A Wiseman New Member

    What is this peso worth these days? I'm not a collector but if I find odd coins or interesting items I hang onto them and I've had a coin for years just because it was different but never thought to check it's value and now I'm just curious. Thanks for any replies!!
     
  15. joecoincollect

    joecoincollect Well-Known Member

    It's worth only what a collector would pay. In that condition I'd pay a few cents. I get them all the time in pounds of coins. I sell most of my Mexican coins like that for 1 dollar a pound to my local coin shop. He pays 3 per pound for everything else
     
  16. joecoincollect

    joecoincollect Well-Known Member

    I just got the vol 2 of the Mexican Coinage encyclopedia. It's pretty good
     
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