Dockwalliper

The President dollar coin bill (s 1047) passed the senate last Friday and now only needs the presidents signature to become law. The bill also includes the 2009 redesign for the cent, the Gold Bullion "Buffalo" and the first ladies commem. gold coins.

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mrbrklyn

Well I be able to tell if the coins are from the US at work? What is, or will be, the President dollar coin?

Ruben

Dockwalliper

The bill places the images of four U.S. presidents on the dollar coin each year, in the order of their service, until all are so honored, starting in 2007; much like the State quarter program.

The Statue of Liberty will be on the reverse side of the coin.

Other information, such as the date and the mintmark will be located on the edge of the coin.

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mrbrklyn

We have to suffer through ten years of rotating dollar coins commemortating Presidents not worthy of even discussing? And we get TWO for Grover Clevland Alexander.

This is not going to help adapt a dollar coin. Nothing short of elimintating the one dollar bill, or making a silver 1 dollar coin of apropriate size is going to make the public give up on the paper dollar.

If they want to improve the currency, let them eliminate the penny and the one dollar bill, produce $500 bills again, and make a 10 dollar coin about the size of a silver eagle. And if not silver, let them make it out of something less crapy than the aluminum foil chads they've been using. In fact, they can eliminate the penny and the nickle.

There is a reason why this stuff is called change today. Its just a nusense all this worthless coinage. People in retail outlets are begging to get rid of their pennies already.

Ruben

Dockwalliper

Might take longer than 10 years to get thru them all.

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glaciermi

Hmm.. it's beautiful, I shall call it "Millard Fillmore in Liberty Gown Walking; with whip of justice in one hand, and agenda of the Know Nothing Party in the other"

Sorry.. i couldn't resist

OldDan

No thank you, I believe I'll pass on this one.

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mrbrklyn

Too me, this sounds like a bad idea. But what do I know.


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Presidential $1 Coin Act of 2004 (Introduced in House)

HR 3916 IH

108th CONGRESS

2d Session

H. R. 3916

To improve circulation of the $1 coin, create a new bullion coin, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
March 9, 2004

Mr. CASTLE (for himself and Mrs. MALONEY) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Financial Services

A BILL

To improve circulation of the $1 coin, create a new bullion coin, and for other purposes.

* Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

* This Act may be cited as the `Presidential $1 Coin Act of 2004'.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

* The Congress finds as follows:

* (1) There are sectors of the United States economy, including public transportation, parking meters, vending machines and low-dollar value transactions, in which the use of a $1 coin is both useful and desirable for keeping costs and prices down.

* (2) For a variety of reasons, the new $1 coin introduced in 2000 has not been widely sought-after by the public, leading to higher costs for merchants and thus higher prices for consumers.

* (3) The success of the 50-State circulating commemorative quarter program shows that a rotating design on a United States circulating coin radically increases demand for the coin, rapidly pulling it through the economy.

* (4) The 50-State circulating commemorative quarter program also has been an educational tool, teaching both Americans and visitors something about each State for which a quarter has been issued.

* (5) A national survey and study by the General Accounting Office has indicated that many Americans who do not seek, or who reject, the new $1 coin for use in commerce would actively seek the coin if an attractive, educational rotating design were to be struck on the coin.

* (6) The President is the leader of our tripartite government and the President's spouse has often set the social tone for the White House while spearheading and highlighting important issues for the country.

* (7) Many people cannot name all of the Presidents, and fewer can name the spouses, nor can many people accurately place the President in the proper time period of American history.

* (8) First Spouses have not generally been recognized on American coinage.

* (9) Sacagewea, as currently represented on the new $1 coin, is an important symbol of American history.

* (10) In order to revitalize the design of United States coinage and return circulating coinage to its position as not only a necessary means of exchange in commerce but as representation of aesthetic beauty, it is appropriate to move many of the mottos and emblems, the inscription of the year, and the so-called `mint marks' that currently appear on the 2 faces of each circulating coin to the edge of the coin, which would allow larger and more dramatic artwork on the coins reminiscent of the so-called `Golden Age of Coinage' in the United States, at the beginning of the Twentieth Century, initiated by President Theodore Roosevelt, with the assistance of noted sculptors and medallic artists James Earle Fraser and Augustus St. Gaudens.

* (11) Placing inscriptions on the edge of coins, known as edge-incusing, is a hallmark of modern coinage and is common in large-volume production of coinage elsewhere in the world, such as the 2,700,000,000 2-Euro coins in circulation and coins of the People's Republic of China, but it has not been done on a large scale in United States coinage in recent years.

* (12) Bullion coins are a valuable tool for the investor and, in some cases, an important aspect of the coin-collector field.

* (13) Although the Congress has authorized the Secretary of the Treasury to issue gold coins with a purity of .9999 percent, the Secretary has not done so.

* (14) By commencing the issuance of the presidential $1 coins in 2006, coins issued in uncirculated or proof qualities that commemorate the presidency of Thomas Jefferson may be sold in sets with the coins of similar qualities that are issued in 2006 and commemorate the Lewis and Clark expedition, together with $1 coins that bear the image of Sacagewea and are struck for numismatic purposes under section 5112(n)(1)(B) of title 31, United States Code (as amended by section 3 of this Act).

SEC. 3. PRESIDENTIAL $1 COIN PROGRAM.

* Section 5112 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by inserting after subsection (m) the following new subsection:

* `(n) Redesign and Issuance of Circulating $1 Coins Honoring Each of the Presidents of the United States-

* `(1) REDESIGN BEGINNING IN 2006-

* `(A) In general- Notwithstanding subsection (d), $1 coins issued during the appropriate period beginning January 1, 2006, shall have designs on the obverse and reverse sides selected in accordance with this subsection which are emblematic of the Presidents of the United States.

* `(B) Transition provision- Notwithstanding subparagraph (A), the Secretary may continue to mint and issue $1 coins in 2006 which bear the design in effect before the redesign required under this subsection, as required for numismatic purposes and to ensure a smooth transition into the presidential coin program under this subsection.

* `(2) Design requirements- The $1 coins issued in accordance with paragraph (1)(A) shall meet the following design requirements:

* `(A) Coin reverse- The reverse of the coin shall bear--

* `(i) a likeness of the Statue of Liberty extending to the rim of the coin and large enough to provide a dramatic representation of Liberty while not being large enough to create the impression of a `2-headed' coin;

* `(ii) an inscription, using Arabic numerals, of the value of the coin; and

* `(iii) an inscription of the `United States of America'.

* `(B) Coin obverse- The obverse of the coin shall contain the name and likeness of a President of the United States along with basic information about the President, including the dates of the term of office of such President and a number indicating the order of the term of service in which the President served.

* `(C) Edge-incused inscriptions- So that the images on the obverse and reverse of each coin may stretch completely to the rim of the coin for dramatic effect similar to the coin designs of St. Gaudens and James Earle Fraser, the inscription of the year of issuance of the coin and the inscriptions required under subsection (d)(1), other than the designation of the value of the coin or the inscriptions referred to in subparagraphs (A)(iii) and (D), shall be edge-incused into the coin.

* `(D) Inscriptions of `liberty'- Notwithstanding the 2d sentence of subsection (d)(1), because the use of the Statue of Liberty on the reverse of the coins issued under this subsection adequately conveys the concept of Liberty, an inscription of `Liberty' shall not appear on either face of such coins or the edge of the coins.

* `(E) Prohibition on inclusion of sitting president in series- No coin issued under this subsection may bear the image of a President who has not completed such President's term of service.

* `(3) Issuance of coins commemorating presidents-

* `(A) Order of issuance- The coins issued under this subsection commemorating Presidents of the United States shall be issued in the order of the term of service of each President, beginning with President George Washington.

* `(B) Treatment of term of service-

* `(i) In general- Subject to clause (ii), only 1 coin design shall be issued per order of service for any President, no matter how many consecutive terms of office the President served.

* `(ii) Nonconsecutive terms- If a President has served during 2 or more nonconsecutive terms of service, a coin shall be issued under this subsection for each such nonconsecutive term of service.

* `(4) ISSUANCE OF COINS COMMEMORATING 4 PRESIDENTS DURING EACH YEAR OF THE PERIOD-

* `(A) In general- The designs for the $1 coins issued during each year of the period referred to in paragraph (1) shall be emblematic of 4 Presidents selected in the order in which they served as President until each President has been so honored.

* `(B) NUMBER OF EACH OF 4 COIN DESIGNS IN EACH YEAR- Of the $1 coins issued during each year of the period referred to in paragraph (1), the Secretary of the Treasury shall prescribe, on the basis of such factors as the Secretary determines to be appropriate, the number of $1 coins which shall be issued with each of the 4 designs selected for such year.

* `(5) Selection of design- Each of the designs required under this subsection for $1 coins shall be--

* `(A) selected by the Secretary after consultation with the Commission of Fine Arts; and

* `(B) reviewed by the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee.

* `(6) Treatment as numismatic items- For purposes of sections 5134 and 5136, all coins minted under this subsection shall be considered to be numismatic items.

* `(7) Issuance- The Secretary may mint and issue such number of $1 coins of each design selected under paragraph (5) in uncirculated and proof qualities as the Secretary determines to be appropriate.

* `(8) Reversion to preceding design- Upon the completion of the series of designs required by this subsection, the design of the $1 coin shall revert to the design in use prior to the issuance of coins in accordance with this subsection.'.

SEC. 4. FIRST SPOUSE BULLION COIN PROGRAM.

* Section 5112 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by inserting after subsection (n) (as added by section 3 of this Act) the following new subsection:

* `(o) First Spouse Bullion Coin Program-

* `(1) In general- During the same period in which the $1 coins are issued under subsection (n) which are emblematic of the Presidents of the United States, the Secretary of the Treasury shall issue bullion coins under this subsection that are emblematic of the spouse of each such President.

* `(2) Specifications- The coins issued under this subsection shall--

* `(A) have the same diameter as the $1 coins described in subsection (n);

* `(B) be of an appropriate weight and thickness; and

* `(C) contain .9999 percent pure gold.

* `(3) Design requirements-

* `(A) Coin obverse- The obverse of each coin issued under this subsection shall contain the name and likeness of a First Spouse, an inscription of the years of service and a number indicating the order in which his or her spouse served as President.

* `(B) Coin reverse- The reverse of each coin issued under this subsection shall bear--

* `(i) images emblematic of the life and work of the First Spouse whose image is borne on the obverse; and

* `(ii) an inscription of the `United States of America'.

* `(C) Designated denomination- Each coin issued under this subsection shall bear, on the reverse, an inscription of the designated denomination of the coin, using Arabic numerals, which shall be $10.

* `(D) Design in case of no first spouse- In the case of any President who served without a spouse--

* `(i) the image on the obverse of the bullion coin corresponding to the $1 coin relating to such President shall be an image of the concept of `Liberty'--

* `(I) as represented on a United States coin issued during the term of such President; or

* `(II) in the case of President Chester Alan Arthur, incorporating the name and likeness of Alice Paul, a leading strategist in the suffrage movement, who was instrumental in gaining women the right to vote upon the adoption of the 19th amendment and thus participate in the election of future Presidents, and who was born on January 11, 1885, during the term of President Arthur; and

* `(ii) the reverse of such bullion coin shall be of a design representative of themes of such President, except that in the case of the bullion coin referred to in clause (i)(II) the reverse of such coin shall be representative of the sufferage movement.

* `(E) Design and coin for each spouse- A coin shall be designed and issued under this section for each person who was the spouse of a President during any portion of a term of office of such President.

* `(F) Edge-incused inscriptions- So that the images on the obverse and reverse of each coin may stretch completely to the rim of the coin for dramatic effect, the inscription of the year of issuance of the coin and the inscriptions required under subsection (d)(1), other than the designation of the value of the coin, shall be edge-incused into the coin.

* `(4) Selection of design- Each of the designs required under this subsection for $1 coins shall be--

* `(A) selected by the Secretary after consultation with the Commission of Fine Arts; and

* `(B) reviewed by the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee.

* `(5) Sale of bullion coins- Each bullion coin issued under this subsection shall be sold for an amount the Secretary of the Treasury determines to be appropriate that is equal to or greater than the sum of--

* `(A) the face value of the coins; and

* `(B) the cost of designing and issuing the coins (including labor, materials, dies, use of machinery, overhead expenses, marketing, and shipping).

* `(6) Issuance of coins commemorating first spouses-

* `(A) In general- The bullion coins issued under this section with respect to any spouse of a President shall be issued on the same schedule as the $1 coin issued under subsection (n) with respect to such President.

* `(B) Termination of program- No bullion coin may be issued under this section after the design on the $1 coin reverts, in accordance with subsection (n)(8), to the design of the $1 coin preceding the program the issuance of coins under subsection (n).

* `(7) Quality of coins- The bullion coins shall be issued in both proof and standard versions and may be sold in sets with the $1 coins issued under subsection (n) or in such other sets as the Secretary of the Treasury sees appropriate, as well as separately.'.

SEC. 5. SENSE OF THE CONGRESS.

* It is the sense of the Congress that--

* (1) the American tradition of not issuing a coin with the image of a living person has served the country well and deserves to be continued as a general practice;

* (2) the full circulation potential and cost-savings benefit projections for the presidential $1 coin program are not likely to be achieved unless barriers to the circulation of such coins are removed; and

* (3) in connection with the introduction of the $1 coins under the presidential $1 coin program--

* (A) the coins should not be introduced with an expensive taxpayer-funded public relations campaign, including the use of the taxpayer-funded United States Mint Public Enterprise Fund; and

* (B) the Director of the United States Mint, a bureau in the Department of the Treasury, should--

* (i) work with consumer groups, media outlets, and schools to ensure an adequate amount of news coverage about the start of the coin program so consumers will know of the availability of the coins; and

* (ii) work closely with merchants who will use the coins, vending machine and other coin acceptor manufacturers, vending machine operators, transit officials, and municipal parking officials, as well as with the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the various banking and business associations, to ensure that--

* (I) adequate numbers of vending machines and coin accepting equipment will accept the coin, and are labeled as such;

* (II) cash register drawers are ready to accept the coins; and

* (III) the contractors who handle recirculation of coins for the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System have machinery available to deliver and recycle the coins in packaging that is useful to businesses, including rolled coins.

justafarmer

Can't get rid of the 1 cent piece - that's just crazy. The country would have to re-program or replace every tool utilized in determining the amount of exchange involved in a monetary transaction. Cash registers computing sales tax, Accounting systems computing interest, payroll taxes, the list is endless. The primary purpose of currency and coinage is to facilitate commerce.

I am already facing the expense of replacing all my time clocks come 2007 due to the change in daylight savings time. They are hard coded to automatically adjust their time based on DST as it currently is.

kiyardo

Here is part of my email to Pres. Bush:

The main point of my email is to encourage you to veto the Presidential Dollar Coin Act that just passed the Senate. The dollar coin has not circulated well, and Rep. Castle seems to think that a repeat of his rotating design legislation (as with the 50 state quarters) would make the dollar coin circulate. On the surface it sounds nice, but the State Quarter program is not nearly as popular as it was because it's so long, 10 years. This one would take 11 years and the designs would not change as drastically as the quarter programs. It's not like little Tommy form Texas is going to be waiting in line for a Polk or a Taylor. It just doesn't have the appeal of a Mark McGuire rookie, ya know?

The founders and even most presidents, besides Clinton wouldn't want their faces on our coinage, like the Kings and Emperors of the past. Let's have a rotating design program that lasts 4 years that has symbols of liberty and American ingenuity or something. Let's have coins with images illustrating parts of our Constitution or Bill Of Rights.

Just Carl

I keep hearing people say to get rid of the penny and the one dollar bill. Obviously these are people that don't use cash for transactions. At stores everywhere I go more and more people are using plastic or checks and it holds up lines constantly when it is entered wrong, swiped backwards, etc. Paying with cash is fast but a dying item. No one wants to carry the stuff anymore so why try more $1 coins that no one wants. I've been getting the little $1 coins in change all the time fore a quarter and really scared of putting them back as quarters so I never carrythem. Plastic is used at gas stations, all kinds of stores and just about anywhere possible so why worry about getting rid of a penny or dollar bill when in the future there will probably be no cash at all. When you use platic credit or debit cards there is no chance of getting worng change, there is no change, Don't need to know how much cash you've got with you and don't worry as much as to how much something costs. I just wonder how long before people are talking about the good old days when there was this thing called cash.

mrbrklyn

The thing about the dollar coin is that you have to MAKE people giveup the dollar bill. There are economic reasons to do this, but people are never ever giving up bills for change, even if it was a quarter dollar bill.

The use of cash is way down, and the government loves this. The government hates cash and wants a closed system without any anominity in economic transactions which is why we don't have $500 bills in circulation despite a real need. When I pay my rent, I need $500 bills. $100 dollar bills are circulating now at riducles rates and end up in my cash register all the time.

Ruben

mrbrklyn

Its easy. Computers, which is what all these monetary systems are to date, can do this with no real expense. The growing problem of pennys is a more expensive problem. It takes at least 25 pennies for even the smallest of value.

Its time for the penny to go the way of the half cent.

Would you prefer a %100 revalued coinage so that dimes are pennies, dollars are dimes. Thats another solution.
Ruben

vipergts2

I for one am looking forward to the new presidential dollars. I like collecting circulating coins, it is cheaper to collect than than buy than commems from the mint. and as the old saying goes a penny saved is a penny earned (even if it never goes up in value).

Troodon

What would happen in the case where the president was married when he was elected, but the first lady died before he was sworn in to office? Thinking specifically of the case of Rachel Jackson, who was married to Andrew Jackson when he was elected, but Rachel died before he was sworn in. She still get a coin?