1861 $20 note!

Hello guys,

I have no idea if this is genuine but I found it today when I was sorting through old stuff...

I was given it along with a ton of banknotes from my great grandad...

If this is real, I'm guessing it going to be worth quite a bit of money..

 

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Hey Frank do you collect Civil War Currency are is this something you just had
Lying around?? Nice piece

 

Frank one of the few things I have heard about authentic confederate notes are that the ink used for the signatures on them contained a substance that over time led to bleed thru, so that the signature could be seen from the reverse of the note. Also that there were tons of facsimiles made some not marked as such, and that if the paper looks parchment like chances are they are facsimiles created for collectors.

 

so is it genuine?

 

It was just in a box of bank notes that I got given when I was about 5 or 6.

 

Here is a link of a guy selling one of these, If yours is real it could be worth some money, But the color on yours looks a little strange (that could be the lighting you used). Reproductions of these are widely sold at souvenir shops at civil war sites.

http://www.deerrunmercantile.com/t-20industrybetweencupidandbeehivetwentydollarsvf-ef.aspx

On all of the CSA notes I have seen the signatures and serial #s are hand written and normally faded.

 

the signatures look stamped/printed, which makes me question the authenticity. IMO, it is not real. but i am NOT an expert.

 

I"m thinking it's not real too. But it's hard to tell from a pick.
And yes the bleed thru or burn thru is common but not always true. On hand signed notes if there is enough ink on the pen the time will burn it into the paper and you can see it on the back sometimes it ends up looking like a whole torched thru the note. Confed notes are thin paper so it shows even more then others.

 

You can tell better than anyone since you have it on hand, what sort of paper is it? thick parchment type paper is indicative of a facsimile, check the signatures to see if they are printed or hand signed, There are also some websites with lists of commonly reprinted sn's.

I suppose it could be genuine, I doubt it, mainly because most all I have seen have had the ink bleed thru the note, but I probably have not seen only a couple of dozen of these notes, my dad had thousands of facsimiles, they all had the parchment paper, my brothers wife claimed them and frames them and sells them at flea markets, his (my fathers) were all marked facsimile on the reverse but in my research of them many were printed without being marked as a facsimile.

 

I kind of guessed it might be fake but its an old fake! I think he got it in the 1950's so it has some age...I'm not 100% sure if it is fake though.

 

I would say the note is a fake. The reason is that the serial number of your note matches the note below that is listed as a fake note.

Lou

 

Thanks Lou.

 

besides the fact it is fake, it is a nice note to look at..I might frame it

 

LSM where do you get that list of fake S/N's

 

Duke, the note was listed on this site: http://www.crutchwilliams.com/BogusCSA_RoTx.html

Lou

 

Thanks for all the help guys

 

I would also agree it is not real,as the confederate issue of 1861 $20 note has a "blank" reverse,as yours has a $20 logo on it.So I would say it is not real.Sorry

 

No probs, I'm not losing anything

 

I've heard that in the '50s a cereal company printed notes like this as novelties and put them in cereal boxes as a give away

 

Really

well my grandad collected world notes and these were like his throw away ones..