What is wrong with this trade dollar?

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  1. goldrealmoney79

    goldrealmoney79 Active Member

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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Do you know what I think of Trade Dollars ? If it isn't graded, I'm not interested. :punch:
     
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  4. longnine009

    longnine009 Most Exalted Excellency Supporter

    I would not even dream of buying an un-slabbed Trade Dollar, or small gold.
     
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  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I think the seller needs some help with taking images. His other items for sell have the same look. I can't see much of anything about the Trade Dollar from his images.
     
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  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    CC mint mark or Beijing?
     
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  7. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht / Longacre Enthusiast

    I'd have deep trouble trusting a raw CC trade dollar with professional photography, let alone pictures of that quality.
     
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  8. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I don't have the Trade Dollar chops to look at an image of one and tell whether it's legit. But when I see images as poor as these, and when I see a high-value coin that's raw, I assume the worst.

    I also put about zero value on the Sigma readout. As I understand it, you have to give the machine some information about the size and shape of the coin you're "analyzing", and I see no indication of what they told the machine.
     
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  9. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    What's wrong with it? Nothing that I can see other than being fake. It should have XF details throughout but the eagle's head looks like Play-Doh and many of the rev letters have no feet. The 2 0's in 900 aren't even the same size.
     
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  10. manny9655

    manny9655 Well-Known Member

    It looks like it was harshly cleaned, among other things. I'd stay away.
     
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  11. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Weird picture, but it looks mushy

    Here is the mm on one of this seller's Morgans.

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  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Take a look at the seller's completed listings. He's running through quite a stream of better- and key-date details coins, with many of them perched on that Sigma as "proof" of their "authenticity".

    I'm not sure any of them are fake, but it's a very odd specialty.
     
  13. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I'm curious - how on earth does that gadget read "pre1900" or even "US"? I'm not aware of any composition that magically changed after 1900. It sounds pretty hokey to me, like something they told the gadget to read, and not an actual reading. The same image is on most of their coins for sale.
     
  14. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky Supporter

    Cleaned beyond. Stay away from that coin.
     
  15. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    The Morgan dollars from 1900 on have less lead in them than before 1900. The mint improved its silver refining operations. There is a slight difference.
     
  16. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I believe the coin is real but the images are making it hard to see that.
     
  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    You select the kind of metal you think you have, and the analyzer checks whether its resistivity matches that metal.

    I thought you also needed to specify the coin's size, but that's not true.

    I couldn't stand it any more, and looked up the Sigma User Guide. It addresses most of my skepticism about the machine. I still don't think I'll be buying one myself, but I'm probably done poking fun at them. :rolleyes:
     
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