Unknown Roman Republic Quadrans? Spanish? Aeneas and Father?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Marsyas Mike, Jun 10, 2021.

  1. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    I've been trying to figure this out and failing - not sure what it weighs, but it is 20 mm or so.

    The three pellets led me to believe it is a Roman Republican quadrans? Surely that is Aeneas and his father and the Palladium on the reverse? It's a bit crude, so I checked Roman Spain too. Sicily? :bucktooth:

    I'm stumped. Any help much appreciated. Sorry about the poor obverse photo - I don't have this in hand, so this is the best I can do.

    Unknown RR Jun 2021a.jpg
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  3. Scipio

    Scipio Well-Known Member

    Nothing I have seen before. But the style, as you noticed, reminds me the Spanish imitatives. In the right side of the reverse I also see a Q, that could be for “quaestor” as in many provincial issues.
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  4. Ignoramus Maximus

    Ignoramus Maximus Nomen non est omen.

  5. Scipio

    Scipio Well-Known Member

    I think @Ignoramus Maximus is right! In fact the Q I saw is actually the upper part of the R of CORDVBA, and the D appears too.
  6. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Thank you! This has been driving me crazy trying to figure it out - I got stuck on this incorrect Aeneas interpretation and it brought me to a dead end.

    I found an interesting blog (a CT member?) with some more information:

    Type 06: Eros with Upright Torch


    There is a well-known coin from Corduba in Spain, a quadrans struck in the name of a certain Cnaeus Julius (ca. 50 B.C.?), with Venus on the obverse and a figure of Cupid with upright torch and cornucopiae on the reverse. Note how Cupid is portrayed here as a feisty teenager, rather than as the chubby cherub often encountered on later provincial coinage.

    These coins are often of naïve style and in poor condition (those illustrated here are superior specimens, also heavier in weight than average), and are not part of this study because, like the Roman Republican denarii with Cupid motifs, they were issued before the era of Roman provincial coinage that we are concerned with. The Corduban coins circulated locally at the other end of the Roman world and will scarcely have influenced later provincial issues in the Balkans or Asia Minor. The types refer to Venus, patroness of the Julii (and so, indirectly, to Julius Caesar). For a dramatic mosaic of Eros (with Psyche) from Corduba, see Type 54.


    What a great Forum. Thanks again, @Ignoramus Maximus - despite your handle, you're no ignoramus! :)
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  7. Ignoramus Maximus

    Ignoramus Maximus Nomen non est omen.

    Happy to help.

    Yeah, that username probably was a poor choice...and I regret it a little, but I'm stuck with it now
    I needed a username, and since this is the one I used in a general knowledge quiz, it seemed like an obvious choice. It is really meant ironically (I usually do all-right in these quizzes, you see) and at the time I didn't really realize that it might come across to others as self-deprecation. Oh, well, live and learn...:)

    I added a little 'nomen non est omen' to make up for it...:D
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