Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Jack D. Young, Jun 22, 2022.
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edit to add - https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/19004
edit to also add - example of the above reverse die paired with an obverse die with date placement of the OP example. - https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/990677
According to the information in the SSDC registry there were 2 obverse dies paired with this reverse die.
Jack, Apologize in advance for responding to your thread, in accordance to your previous request, but this was a little to obvious as a possible comparison to not mention it. I will not give my opinion, again per previous request.
I thought the same thing. But then I looked at several photos of graded Trade dollars, and thought the same thing about those toes, too.
exactly what I did, and reached the same conclusion
I have to ask, what does your friend see that looks wrong?
This bugged me. You guys are right. The examples I looked at on the web displayed similar characteristics….. So it drove me nuts and I had to come home and make an attempt at some close up shots of my slabbed AU53. I thought that would be a fairer representation since mine has similar wear to Jacks photo.
The foot in Jacks photo simply appears to be crude lines scratched where the toes should be. On mine there is depth to the structure of the foot. It is far more three dimensional and shows depth to the features.
The hand on my example has four distinct fingers holding the branch. Try as I might, I can only make out three fingers on Jacks example. And again, the fingers appear far more crude than the fingers on my slabbed piece.
Again, I preface this by emphasizing that I am a rabid hobbyist and NOT an expert at counterfeit detection. I thank the heavens that we have Jack on this forum to help keep us straight….. But I do think that I’ll stand by my previous comment. I think Jacks is counterfeit based upon the crude hand and foot details.
Comments so far were "The dentils have the spark erosion texture. The fields look weird, and there are several tiny raised bumps near the letters on the reverse". And "the pitting, the "e pluribus unum" and the eagles head"...
What I don't like so far is the odd texture overall, sort of "micro-pebbly," especially on the rev dentils, and a lump on the 2nd L in DOLLAR. I'm suspicious.
Nice research, also I see the lump on the L. The surface texture is very similar and not something I was familiar with , so now I am somewhat less suspicious of the op coin, but would still like to see an edge close up.
Here is one that appears to have a grainy texture.
Plus weight looks perfect and past the Sigma tester.
The number of fingers is correct for a Type 1 obverse, which this is. The fourth finger came along withe the Type 2 obverse in 1876.
The coin looks authentic to me. I do see what looks like filed rims, but that may be the photo angle and lighting.
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