Rarity Ratings for CoinDude :-)

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Bonedigger, Jul 6, 2006.

  1. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    R-1 (Common) = 1,000+ known
    R-2 (Slightly Uncommon) = 500-1,000 known
    R-3 (Scarce) = 201-500 known
    R-4 (Very Scarce) = 81-200 known
    R-5 (Rare) = 31-80 known
    R-6 (Very Rare) = 13-30 known
    R-7 (Extremely Rare) = 4-12 known
    R-8 (Unique or nearly so) = 1-3 known

    Fuld rarity scale for token coins:
    GEORGE FULD RARITY SCALE FOR TOKEN COINS
    RARITY ESTIMATED NUMBER IN EXISTENCE
    R - 1 Greater than 5000 (Relatively Common)
    R - 2 2001 to 5000
    R - 3 501 to 2000
    R - 4 201 to 500
    R - 5 76 to 200
    R - 6 21 to 75
    R - 7 11 to 20
    R - 8 5 to 10
    R - 9 2 to 4
    R - 10 1 Only





    The Sheldon Scale
    R-1 Common
    R-2 Not So Common
    R-3 Scarce
    R-4 Very Scarce (population est at 76-200)
    R-5 Rare (31-75)
    R-6 Very Rare (13-30)
    R-7 Extremely rare (4-12)
    R-8 Unique or Nearly So (1,2 or 3)


    The Universal Rarity Scale by Q. David Bowers
    URS-0 None known
    URS-1 1 known, unique
    URS-2 2 known
    URS-3 3 or 4 known
    URS-4 5 to 8 known
    URS-5 9 to 16 known
    URS-6 17 to 32 known
    URS-7 33 to 64 known
    URS-8 65 to 125 known
    URS-9 126 to 250 known
    URS-10 251 to 500 known

    URS-11 501 to 1,000 known
    URS-12 1,001 to 2,000 known
    URS-13 2,001 to 4,000 known
    URS-14 4,001 to 8,000 known
    URS-15 8,001 to 16,000 known
    URS-16 16,001 to 32,000 known
    URS-17 32,001 to 65,000 known
    URS-18 65,001 to 125,000 known
    URS-19 125,001 to 250,000 known
    URS-20 250,001 to 500,000 known




    From the degrees of Rarity as defined in Scholten in Coins of the Dutch Overseas Territories
    Scholten Description
    C Common
    N Normal
    S Scarce
    R Rare
    RR Very Rare
    RRR Extremely Rare
    RRRR Of the utmost rarity


    Michael Marsh in his book The Gold Sovereign expands the last rarity.
    Marsh Description
    R4 15 to 25 examples known
    R5 9 to 14 examples known
    R6 4 to 8 examples known
    R7 Highest rarity known


    Andrew Pollock in his book US Patterns uses the rarity as,
    Marsh Description
    R1 over 1250 examples known
    R2 500 to 1250 examples known
    R3 201 to 500 examples known
    R4 76 to 200 examples known
    R5 31 to 75 examples known
    R6 13 to 30 examples known
    R7 4 to 12 Highest rarity known
    R8 2 or 3 examples known

    English Rarity Scale - from The English Silver Coinage from 1649 by Seaby & Rayner.

    R7 - only 1 or 2 examples known
    R6 - 3 - 4
    R5 - 5 - 10
    R4 - 11 - 20
    R3 - Extremely Rare
    R2 - Very Rare
    R - Rare
    S - Scarce
    N - Normal, neither scarce nor common
    C - Common
    C2 - Very Common
    C3 - Extremely Common
     
  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. bzcollektor

    bzcollektor SSDC Life Member

    I will keep your rarity scales. There are so many, Overton halves, Morgan vams, half cents etc.

    THANKS!
     
  4. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Actually thank the resident Coin Expert GDMJSP or pretty close to that :D

    B
     
  5. YNcoinpro_U.S.

    YNcoinpro_U.S. New Member

    Who ever needs the thanks, THANKS. This is quite useful, even for stuff I don't have, I'll keep.
     
  6. CoinDude08

    CoinDude08 New Member

  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    One of these days I'm gonna have to exapand that list - there are plenty more rarity scales ;)
     
  8. CoinDude08

    CoinDude08 New Member

    This is going to take a long time to memorize, but thank you both for showing me this! This will certainly be helpfull for me especially since I have a coin show comming up in 2 weeks.
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The scales are the easy part, the hard part is learning what coin goes with what R number ;)
     
  10. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll


    That's what reference books are for! That stuff needn't be memorized, it just needs to be organized so that it can be found at the appropriate time ;)
     
  11. cwtokenman

    cwtokenman Coin Hoarder

    I was surprised to see the Hard Times tokens rarity scale not listed as it's use is fairly common.

    R1 - common
    R2 - less common
    R3 - Scarce
    R4 - estimated 76-200 specimens survive
    R5 - estimated 31-75 specimens survive
    R6 - estimated 13-30 specimens survive
    R7 - estimated 4-12 specimens survive
    R8 - estimated 2 or 3 specimens survive
    R9 - Unique (only one known)

    I could dig up many obscure rarity rating lists, as it seems most every author who included one must have felt a need to conjure up a new system. As The_Cave_Troll posted, that is what reference books are for. More than likely you will need a reference book to (id and) find the rarity rating anyway, and the rarity listings will be in the book. While some sellers provide rarity ratings as part of a description, there are enough errors made in providing such info that I put absolutely no trust at all in such descriptions. Often times the rarity rating is in err because the item has also been incorrectly identified.

    For instance, one common exonumia reference only lists the most common variety of Civil War token for each merchant. So many sellers of truly scarce tokens have incorrectly identifed their piece as a relatively common one. I love to see that catalogue referenced in a description.

    I did not verify this, but I am pretty sure at least on of my state merchant token reference books starts off with a known population of 20 (yes, twenty) or more as a "common" rating, and ratings become scarcer from there.

    On a side note, to comment a bit a to try to put some perspective on these low populations, it must be collectors of regular coinage the saying that "another of the same coin will be along shortly" when there is something about a coin deal that they may not like. I have not heard any exonumia collectors ever (seriously) say that, and many is the token I will never have an opportunity to purchase. It is believed that approximately one million Civil War tokens still exist, spread out over 12,000 + varieties, with around 75-80% of the varieties having known populations of 20 or less.

    For a comparison, most collectors would agree that a 1909-S VDB cent is scarce. In performing an ebay search just a few minutes ago for "1909 S VDB", 240 results were found (additional ones via other similar but different search criteria not included). I made no attempt to determine how many auctions were actually for this cent, and not just, say, mentioned as hype in bulk lot descriptions. For comparison, the entire Civil War token category contained 239 results. In this case as well, not all auctions are actually for cwts, as some are for Hard Times tokens, reference books, and other miscellaneous exonumia. I find it somewhat interesting that the returned results were so close, so imagine the scarcity of market availability of a 1909 S VDB cent spread out over 12,000+ cwt varieties. This is admittedly a very crude comparison, but it should serve to provide some insight into finding/collecting scarcities of any type.
     
  12. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Those are very interesting pieces. I have a couple. As far as the number of 1909-S VDBs it's due to the lax control Ebay has over counterfeit insertion. The 09-S VDB is very easily forged and many are listed. Remember it's difficult to post both sides of the coin and the VDB on the neck can be removed easily.

    B
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page