Let's see your Conder Tokens

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  1. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    That's one sexy lion!

    I love my Yarm Purchases too btw.
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  3. Larry Moran

    Larry Moran Numismatographer

    1796 Conder Token • Middlesex DH-1041e

    Here's a new acquisition.

    Grade: MS-63 RB

    Milled \\\\\\\\\\\\

    Rated: Common

  4. Larry Moran

    Larry Moran Numismatographer

    1795 Middlesex DH-904, Stinton's Tea and Cocao Warehouse

    Wm. Stinton, London, Halfpenny

    Grade: Choice Uncirculated

    Edge: Italian, French and Portugal Fruit Warehouse +

    Rated: Common

  5. Larry Moran

    Larry Moran Numismatographer


    I really like your Yorkshire 28a. A beautiful MS example.
  6. yarm

    yarm Junior Member

    As our political scene heats up, I thought a Spence token lampooning the politicians of the day would be appropriate-George III conjoined with an ass on one side and political opponents Fox and Pitt on the other.

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  7. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Nice token and engraved very well for times.
  8. coinsarefun

    coinsarefun Junior Member

  9. Dr.Jones

    Dr.Jones Well-Known Member

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    Sadly I'm selling this coin right now, along with a lot of others. (1794 Half Penny Suffolk Ipswich D&H-35) But, it's one of the nicest examples of James Conder's own tokens I've ever owned or seen. Going to miss it!
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  10. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Just out of curiosity, are there any major error conder tokens? Like double struck, off center, etc...
  11. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    I've seen lots of Die Cracks and Cuds but can't think of any errors.
  12. Larry Moran

    Larry Moran Numismatographer

    There are many errors among Conders, if you count misspellings, reversed letters, strikes on undersized or oversized planchets, planchet flaws, cuds, die cracks, planchet flaws, off center strikes, odd mulings, double strikes or overstrikes (over other tokens or coins).

    Many Conders have dentils missing in one area or another, dates repunched or hanging off one edge. Then there are edge flaws and varieties, some which have not been specifically catalogued. Flans were often manufactured in a different place from actual striking of its faces.

    Until Conders were struck using steam power at Boulton and Watt's Soho Mint, all Conders were struck with screw presses making errors even more common. Slippage of one die or the other was common.
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  13. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Thank you. The reason i ask was because i have been looking to get my first conder token and havent seen one i really wanted until now. Actually i bought it over the weekend but i havent gotten it yet. It has been graded by ngc at vf25. Its also struck 30% off center and i havent seen anything similar. I love error coins and thought this was perfect for my collection. I will post pics when i get it later this week.
  14. Larry Moran

    Larry Moran Numismatographer

    Great, Evan. Welcome to the Conder Token collecting community.

    I am deeply interested in that period of British history, all started by my deep interest in British Conder Tokens, and why they are so important, and why they have appreciated 500-1,000% or more in the past 15 years, almost regardless of grade.

    I have long believed that the success of the First Industrial Revolution depended on four major influences:

    • improvement in casting iron and steel, and engineering of resultant products

    • the steam engine (used for evacuating water from tin and coal mines, later for steamships and railroad locomotives)

    • British Conder Tokens (primarily from 1787-1797 during shortage of regal small change, which greatly facilitated increased trade and movement of workers from farms to towns. It was not feasible to pay factory workers and miners with chickens and goats anymore, as had been customary with farm workers.)

    The success of Conder Tokens relied on their being struck in pure copper, the world's finest copper, which came from Cornwall in England, and Parys Mountain on Anglesey Island in North Wales.

    • rivers and canals (I believe that steam engines and pumps were also used to keep many canals full during summer months, in addition to powering machinery associated with handling small barges and loads at terminals.)

    These four influences share much of the responsibility for the overwhelming success of the Industrial Revolution.
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  15. wyvern

    wyvern Active Member

    Thomas paine with an E was an english American political activist who moved to france when things got a bit hot for him in England,he supported the French revolution.benjamin franklin helped him get to new England and inspired rebels to declare independence from Britain.died in new York where he was unpopular for his ridicule of christianity
  16. brg5658

    brg5658 Well-Known Member

    Picked this one up about a month ago.


    I really like the detailed engraving work that went into this token:

  17. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Awesome piece Brandon. :)
  18. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Just got it in the mail. My first conder token:

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  19. coinsarefun

    coinsarefun Junior Member

    1796 Hereforeshire DH-4 1P MS64RB
    Actually has a hint of nice toning, but doesn't show up.


    Wales Carmarthen halfpenny DH-7

    One of the most detailed in the entire series.Raw

  20. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    this is my first and only one. i just got back from grading.

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  21. coinsarefun

    coinsarefun Junior Member

    The last image I accidentally switched the obverse and reverse.....too lazy now and will switch it later.

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