Lets break this down..

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Kristine Garrant, Mar 22, 2023.

  1. Kristine Garrant

    Kristine Garrant Well-Known Member

    Ok. So i do h derstand what makes a double die. I am learning all the non monetary things that can make it seem to an amateur that it looks like a DD. There is alot i am still trying to comprehend. So, let me try.

    I do see some flatness.
    I do not believe it to be a glare.
    I do not see any notches.
    I do not see a "fattening" of the letters.
    I do see a line on the 'R' but that kind of pressure and a jump would make a line as well?
    This definitely is not a DD?

    Thats my final answer. Please advise if i got it right. Bit could use help on what exactly it is tho. Thanks in advance. ( I could be totally wrong as well lol) 20230319_070136.jpg
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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    You are correct. That is not a doubled die.
  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    You are 100% correct on your assessment.
    I would like for you to describe this one below.
  5. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I'll offer this up if it is edumacation you are seeking..... This is out of my collection. Now I am not a died in the wool errors guy, but here's what I know.... Think of a bicycle tire spinning. The outer part of that wheel is spinning at a much greater rate than the center. A coin that is left to spin in the die is much the same. What results is that the doubling around outer reaches of the coin is far more dramatic than the doubling closer to the center... Look at "Liberty" for example. The "LIB" has dramatically more pronounced doubling than the "RTY".... See if that helps you to make sense of how doubling works.

  6. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Thank God!!! Nobody should die because of enjoying the hobby of coins. I, too, am not a die for the hobby kind of guy. That would definitely be an error on my part.

    (Don't hit me...it is what I do. It is in the blood to be a smartazz.)
  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Great example of rotated hub doubling. Class 1. That is only one of the classes of double dies. There are 9 types of doubled dies. Some shift and some only double certain devices. It can be all over the board.
    I have always wanted a 55. Beautiful coin Randy.
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  8. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Thanks, Pickin'.... I really should further educate myself if I am going offer up my opinions!!
  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The rotated hub doubling is also the same doubling as the 69S. A very sought after type of Doubled die. And it is because of what you described. The doubling is unmistaken.
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  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    How about a trade Randy? I have a very nice BU 1955 without all those extra numbers and letters. :smuggrin::):smuggrin:
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  11. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    How could I refuse??? Maybe throw in a few of those unsearched storage boxes too???
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  12. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Remember.. It's Doubled Die and not double die.
    Big difference.

    A doubled die variety occurs when the working die is made. The working die is struck twice by the master die (really a double squeeze). So that when there is a doubling on the working die (hence the name doubled die) that doubling gets transferred to every coin struck by that working die.
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  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Lol, now that was a good laugh! :)
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  14. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Supporter! Supporter

    @Kristine Garrant, you have made some very intelligent observations to come to your conclusion, and I really appreciate you listing your reasoning. Wish more of us did that, as a good learning experience.
    So, Kudos to you.
    I'm terrible at trying to distinguish the differences, and with my troublesome eye sight, I've given up.
    I wish you good luck and hope you will find a true Doubled Die coin, and share it with us.
  15. Kristine Garrant

    Kristine Garrant Well-Known Member

    ok so i get the doubled die process. i am trying to learn to recognize by eye the different types. like die detrioration, PMD, MD, strike doubling etc. trying to train my eye to recognize these.
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