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<p>[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 3835838, member: 73489"]Sorry, that information is NOT out there. You simply have been TOLD it is "out there" and relied on others to do your DD instead of doing it yourself.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #0000ff">The TARP program released approximately $750 BB into the system. </span></b> The vast amount was taken by large money center ("Wall Street") banks, who repaid the money within 6 months to 2 years. The U.S. Treasury made money on these liquidity lifelines via interest and equity warrants. This is what a central bank -- The Fed -- is supposed to do during times of ""panic" so we don't have panics like 1873, 1907, etc.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #0000ff">No banks were "bailed out." </span></b> All equity holders suffered dilution, from JP Morgan Chase (<5%) to Citibank (>85%). I dare you to tell a Citibank shareholder from 2007 that they were "bailed out" by TARP with the stock price down over 80% from the 2007 levels because of all the dilution.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some small banks (Maxine Waters !!<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> ) were bailed out. And the United Auto Workers (UAW) and AFL-CIO were bailed out because their pension and OPEB funds should have been compensated at 15-20 cents on the dollar along with other unsecured creditors but because they control large blocs of voters in Michigan and other states, they were given 80-90 cents on the dollar. So yes, a certain special interest was "bailed out"...and the political establisment and media elite approved every step of the way.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>There was no $17 TT injected into banks. That's double and triple counting. Like me borrowing $1,000 from a bank for 1 year...paying interest daily....and then saying I borrowed $365,000. No, I borrowed $1,000 for 1 year not $1,000 every day for 365 days.</u></b></p><p><b><u><br /></u></b></p><p>The greatest problem we have in this country is people who do NOT do proper DD on matters of finance, economics, politics, etc....they will spend weeks researching a HDTV but make 401(k) decisions based on a 30-second news report.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 3835838, member: 73489"]Sorry, that information is NOT out there. You simply have been TOLD it is "out there" and relied on others to do your DD instead of doing it yourself. [B][COLOR=#0000ff]The TARP program released approximately $750 BB into the system. [/COLOR][/B] The vast amount was taken by large money center ("Wall Street") banks, who repaid the money within 6 months to 2 years. The U.S. Treasury made money on these liquidity lifelines via interest and equity warrants. This is what a central bank -- The Fed -- is supposed to do during times of ""panic" so we don't have panics like 1873, 1907, etc. [B][COLOR=#0000ff]No banks were "bailed out." [/COLOR][/B] All equity holders suffered dilution, from JP Morgan Chase (<5%) to Citibank (>85%). I dare you to tell a Citibank shareholder from 2007 that they were "bailed out" by TARP with the stock price down over 80% from the 2007 levels because of all the dilution. Some small banks (Maxine Waters !!:D ) were bailed out. And the United Auto Workers (UAW) and AFL-CIO were bailed out because their pension and OPEB funds should have been compensated at 15-20 cents on the dollar along with other unsecured creditors but because they control large blocs of voters in Michigan and other states, they were given 80-90 cents on the dollar. So yes, a certain special interest was "bailed out"...and the political establisment and media elite approved every step of the way.:D [B][U]There was no $17 TT injected into banks. That's double and triple counting. Like me borrowing $1,000 from a bank for 1 year...paying interest daily....and then saying I borrowed $365,000. No, I borrowed $1,000 for 1 year not $1,000 every day for 365 days. [/U][/B] The greatest problem we have in this country is people who do NOT do proper DD on matters of finance, economics, politics, etc....they will spend weeks researching a HDTV but make 401(k) decisions based on a 30-second news report.[/QUOTE]
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