Omg! Nevermind. I am so tired of people thinking every time i ask a question its because the heavens parted and dropped a million dollar coin in my lap. If all you want to say is no its nothing without trying to understand my questions as a newbie when i come scross things amd look for help than please by all means just ignore my posts. What will it take yo get a response other than this? Its completely frustrating to come out here being a newbie and get past this mentality. I am not doing this for money. I am not doing this for money. I do not believe i have some million dollar unique holy grail coin. I do. Ot believe i have some unique and rare holy grail coin. I am just looking for help. Just trying to understand the inner workings, processes, definitions, whys and hows of it all. Will yall quit treating me like every time i post a picture its because i am looking for free grading and attribution? If i dont post pics then you see all kinds of comments about "oh we can't do that or say nothing without posting a picture" ..but when I post a picture you automatically come at me like I'm asking for a free grading service so you can give me approval that my coin is a million dollar coin!! and that's not the case!! so if that's the only way that you can respond to me, please, pass over my post ! because you know what? it's extremely frustrating to be trying to come at this from a student's point of view, who would ask questions of a teacher.. to get told something so generalized as an answer basically saying " okay little kid, thats cute but it's because we know more".. I understand that! that's why I'm here!
I do weekend woodworking and for years I have recessed a current dated cent in the piece and covered it in lacquer. I always thought it was a cool way to date the piece for whoever I made it for. I would bet if somebody retired one of my wood creations and freed the cent that it would look much like yours.
When someone states "spend it" don't take it to heart. It's just a simple way of stating it's nothing special. But the truth is.. You can actually still spend it I bet that after some time of learning you yourself will think.. "Oh it's nothing.. Just a spender" Peace
Don't lose heart! These folks are actually nice folks with a good bit of knowledge to share. if a certain posting person rubs you the wrong way you can click ignore on them and go on. EVERYONE had to learn at one time or other I am still learning after MANY years of collecting. Welcome to coin Talk.
[QUOTE="Kristine Garrant, post: 8243322, member:[/QUOTE] Kristine, In your original post your question was what is this? It's called zinc rot. Starting in 1982 Lincoln cents made are made of a zinc core with a thin layer of copper laminate. After a period of time the zinc corrodes and expands. In this case the expansion caused the thin copper layer to separate. You were able to peel the copper laminate off. It's not a mint error. Just for fun and education a cool thing to do would be to put the zinc core in one flip and the copper laminate in another. Keep the two together and you will have a nice example of the construction of the zinc Lincoln cent. AKA Zincoln. Thats the answer you should have gotten. Unfortunately there are some people who instead of taking the time to provide knowledgeable answers feel the necessity to provide silly, childish, and immature responses. One member in particular with the handle "sensible(?) sal" has been called out for doing that several times in the past by multiple members. His behavior hasn't changed. Why does he do that? Loneliness? Low self esteem? Lack of knowledge? All of the above? Who knows? Don't let that discourage you. Your continued quest for knowledge and growth in this wonderful hobby is evident. Keep up the good work, continue your study and research. Read up about the minting process. Ask questions when you are unsure. The mature and knowledgable people here at Coin Talk will always help. Peace!
Very interesting appears to be glue and you peeled the coin from its tomb!!!yes that's pretty nastynice experiment though.
I've done it before. Find a cent with nail polish or glue or something and give it a quick soak in acetone before sending it on its way. Reborn!
It's all good... "Spend it" is a common reply...especially from the curmudgeons who don't like explaining things unless there is an obvious question lol. Always fun to learn from damaged coins though, it's actually really helpful with learning to identifying pmd as apposed to errors.
Boy, @Kristine Garrant, I must have missed the original post as I have no idea what is going on. Seems you had a cent with questionable coating of something and you soaked it to remove it. Is that correct? In this post, you might have clued us in with a little more information. Please tell us exactly what you did to "peel" the stuff off.
Thanks Ed. I caught up a bit later. Just working on my first cup of coffee before going to my doctor's appointment. LOL
Dynoking, replied to @Kristine Garrant: "Kristine, It's called zinc rot. Starting in 1982 Lincoln cents made are made of a zinc core with a thin layer of copper laminate. After a period of time the zinc corrodes and expands. In this case the expansion caused the thin copper layer to separate. You were able to peel the copper laminate off. It's not a mint error...Don't let that discourage you." Actually Kris, You'll need to disregard this part of the reply BECAUSE, as you already know, the date on your coin is 1964 and it is made of Bronze.
Many/most newer collectors post their observations in the hopes of trying to convince everyone that they have a very valuable error. Very few post their observations and data objectively and ask"here is the data, help me find the answer". Unfortunately, you get lumped into the first category by default, particularly if you have longer threads. You're still getting good responses on your questions with a minimal amount of snark, so would recommend taking the info and learning from it. As others have said, "spend it" is a quick way of saying PMD. Also, don't get too concerned about what caused the PMD. There are a multitude of ways for damage to occur. Many times it's impossible to pinpoint the exact cause with certainty. The important part is knowing that it can't occur during the minting process, hence the reason you'll see many posts that recommend spending time learning the process. Like anything new, the learning takes time, but be patient, keep referring back to those links, and things will come together
Oldhoopster, posted: "Also, don't get too concerned about what caused the PMD. There are a multitude of ways for damage to occur. Many times it's impossible to pinpoint the exact cause with certainty." Amen.
Actually, I think the substance that was on your '64 LMC retained a very good image of the obverse. If it's still in one piece or you haven't tossed it, put it in a 2x2 and place it beside the cent. It can be a chill conversation starter, "And this is what caused the PMD on this coin."
