Hungarian 1705 coin mystery

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Mikjo0, Sep 29, 2005.

  1. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    When I first bought this coin,the 2x2 said Hungary,1705,revoloutinary malcontents-counterstamped.My question is,who were these guys and is the counterstamp from this group?If so,is it stamped onto a regular Hungarian issued coin or what? I'm guessing that Aidan,satootoku or one of you other european specialists will know.
     

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  3. quick dog

    quick dog New Member

    I guessing that this coin was recently defaced with a common metal stamp by the angry wife of a hardcore coin guy, perhaps a member of this board. :D
     
  4. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    The original coin is probably a 28mm copper 10 Poltura, KM#264.1, with no mint mark; KM#264.2, with an "NB" mark; or KM#264.3a with a "CM" mintmark. If it's about 35mm, it may be a 20 Poltura, KM#275.1 with a divided "CM" mintmark, or KM#275.2 without a mint mark.

    Those coins range from $5-$80 depending on denomination, mintmark and condition.

    The oval Madonna and Child countermark would have been applied during the period 1706-11 and coins with the countermark range from $15-160.

    The countermarking occurred during The Kuruc Rebellion of 1703-1711.

     
  5. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    Thanks satootoku!
    The coin measures close to 28mm so it must be the 10 poltura (that plus the "X").I originally thought the counterstamp was a lion but now I can see that it is a madonna and child.I knew you would come through.As you can see,it's quite pitted,probably found in the ground and I think I paid $10.00 for it.
    Quick Dog,my ex-girlfriend denies everything,so it must have been the Kurucs. ;)
     
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