Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Aethelred, Jun 8, 2022.
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My understanding of fine style is: a more artistically competent example than is typical for the same or similar types from the same historical era and culture.
Kroton Ar Nomos 400-375 BC Obv Head of Hera slightly facing to the right. Rv Herakles reclining left. HN 2167 7.78 grms Photo NAC Auction 82 Lot 30 THIS IS NOT MY COIN
As can clearly be seen this coin has a marvelous obverse. The head of Hera is well executed and expression of the face exhibits a level of serenity that very noticeable. The hair is finely detailed and the features on the face are all well executed. Even though the coin does suffer from some issues I would have to say that this coin is an example of "Fine style"
Less so on this one even though it is my coin. The type is same as above except that the weight is 7.71 grms 20mm Photo by W. Hansen
This coin is very similar to the one pictured above though not quite as successful as the first coin. The mouth is rendered less skillfully than the first coin.
Following up is this example Again the information is the same however the dates given are 400-325 BC 7.63 grms 21 mm CNG Triton XXII Lot 99 I sure hope I am not stepping on anyone's toes here.
THIS IS NOT MY COIN Okay compared to the first coin the engraving on this coin is not as good. The proportions of the head are not ideal and the engraving of the hair is again not as good. Poor Hera looks wall eyed. Now as a caveat I will note that the execution of these 3/4 facing head portraits have to be the most difficult images to execute properly. There are just so many things that needed to be perfectly rendered or else the whole composition ends up looking bad. However I hope with this rather long winded and inadequate explanation I have given some insights into the problem of "Fine Style"
There are other factors that contribute, such as high relief versus low relief, although I hasten to add that low relief engraving can also possess fine style, but high relief certainly adds to the appeal of a coin. Execution of the strike is another important factor. Dies can be finely engraved, but an uneven or severely off center strike can detract.
Some coins, such as those of Syracuse, have a general reputation for fine style such as these two:
For Athens, the quality of the owls generally reached the apex during the transitional period towards the mass produced standardized coins of later decades.
Here are some examples of classical owls from the 5th century BC, moving from the transitional types to standardized owls. Which ones, if any, would you say are "fine style"?
Terence Chessman said it best "I know it when I see it". Sometimes all it takes is a simple visual comparison to judge "fine style". The two coins pictured below are a good example, provincial tetradrachms of Philip II. The 1st coin has a good portrait, but the 2nd coin has an extraordinary portrait of "fine style".
..i'm of that school meself...
I personally identify fine style based on the realism of the portrait.
here’s a no brainer:
here’s one i believe is fine style but others may disagree because of the style of the wig, but I like it for the realism of the facial features.
are these your coins or you use these images for illustration purposes?
These are fantastic, especially Nero’s portrait! Congratulations
you know it when you see it" statement.
I recognize it for the emotion I feel when I see the right one. However I'm afraid I can't elaborate more, it's really just about a feeling
@Steelers72 That's one of the finest Nero portraits I've ever seen!
and here are what I would call fine style As and sestertius....
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