How can I tell?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by RUFUSREDDOG, Jul 8, 2009.

  1. RUFUSREDDOG

    RUFUSREDDOG Senior Member

    I come from a long line of old dead people.

    Some were "Being of sound, mind I spent my money while I was alive" types.

    Some were Scottish. :whistle:

    and German & Irish & English & Railroaders & Natives to all kinds of places.

    It has been discovered by the thinning family tree that some of the nonperishable stuff trickling down the inevitable hourglass of time is.......lots of old stuff.

    T
    okens/trinkets/coinage/deeds/past due taxes on stuff no longer owned and even chaff used for Christmas Tree decorations from WWII still exist.

    My mistake was saying something like "Some of this stuff may appreciate, like the old currency."

    So now I must figure out what it is/has been/may be.
    So to begin my "Wheats from the Chaff" adventure I turned here.

    Anybody know what this is? About 34mm of it left and it seems to have had a reeded edge.
     

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  3. byrd740

    byrd740 Numismatist

    I believe it is a George IV(UK) halfcrown. Bare head, second reverse(3809). Minted between 1824 and 1829. Man!, I have never seen one worn that much before.:eek:
     
  4. RUFUSREDDOG

    RUFUSREDDOG Senior Member

    Thanx for a place to start!

    I had NO idea. May have been a talisman rub piece to someone.

    I've thought of getting melting a pot just so I can get through this stuff!
     
  5. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    It may have been used as a pocket piece...

    Let's see your other stuff :D
     
  6. RUFUSREDDOG

    RUFUSREDDOG Senior Member

    Gramps pocket piece was a Colt .25
    & I still have it. :vanish:

    When the chores are all done I'll head to the shed and try some more photo's of other stuff....:eat:
     
  7. RUFUSREDDOG

    RUFUSREDDOG Senior Member

    Where to start

    I wanted to start with the obvious stuff that can be identified.
    or should I define the obscured no longer readable metal first?

    (Yes there are more than a few Not so Buff Nickles and standing Libs quarters....and walking Libs...and Merc Dimes...and Franklins)

    This project began with a book, so don't even go there!

    But the included Family 15th Edition R.S.Yeoman (1962) only took us so far.
    So now I have acquired a current 2009 Red Book.

    We've got excess stuff and we need to clean house. I do not know what most of this stuff is, which is why I'm searching here so I don't just melt down the wrong stuff.

    Like this thing. Should I start with a Geiger counter? Some of my kin were into that.
     

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  8. RUFUSREDDOG

    RUFUSREDDOG Senior Member

    Wonderful! You allowed my Dad~in~Law to remember how it made it to Texas from Scotland!

    now what is a second reverse(3809)? This coin Has no reverse.
     
  9. byrd740

    byrd740 Numismatist

    Did I say second, I meant third. There are three different kinds of reverses But only the bare headed king (not the the laureate) has the third reverse. 3809 is the number used by Spink to identify this coin (similar to a Y# or KM#)
     
  10. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    I think they would make grand washers. Ripley
     
  11. RUFUSREDDOG

    RUFUSREDDOG Senior Member

    Some other stuff

    At least I could read the date on whatever this is.
     

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  12. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Loooks like Carlos III of Spain I think it might be Mexico city mint mark but I am not 100% certain nor can I make out the value

    Just had another look is that a figure 2, I see just below Carlos?
     
  13. (v)

    (v) Senior Member

    I like the UK half crown very much! It looks great even in this condition.
     
  14. Gao

    Gao Member

    Yeah, I'm surprised that it's so aesthetically pleasing with that amount of wear!
     
  15. FarmerB

    FarmerB Senior Member

    Definitely a 1762 Pillar
    The Mo indicates the Mexico City mint.
    Can't make out the denomination. Doesn't look like an 8 Reales. Looks like a '6'. Not sure that was made. Do you have a size and weight on the puppy??
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Yes, it is a 2 reales.
     
  17. RUFUSREDDOG

    RUFUSREDDOG Senior Member

    Weight left seems to be approx. 5.965 grams. Some edge ripples left(?).

    Approx 26 mm. Seems to be a smidge smaller that the 1808 Pillar dollar I think I've found. I was hoping to save that picture until I can sort out the worst of this bag of stuff.

    Isn't this a 1808 (funny looking date to me) below?
     

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  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Weight on which coin ?



    The break in the 0 is more pronounced than usual, but other than that it looks normal to me.
     
  19. RUFUSREDDOG

    RUFUSREDDOG Senior Member

    That's the weight of the 1762.

    Sorry I wasn't clearer.
     
  20. DoK U Mint

    DoK U Mint In Odd we Trust

    Which ones?

    So which ones are cheap washers and which ones are holey in the future?
     
  21. RUFUSREDDOG

    RUFUSREDDOG Senior Member

    This has proven most so far useful, & thanks for the help so far folks!

    Getting to know WHAT they are helps determine what to do with them and their value.

    Anything with a date like 1795 must be collected by somebody, right?

    Now what is this and what should I do with it? More washer fodder of something more desirable with the passage of time?
    :(:(
     

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