Help W/Grade 1833 Capped Bust B2

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Bedford, Apr 8, 2006.

  1. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    Hey Everyone . I am wondering if you could help me out with putting a grade on this. Its a 1833 Capped Bust 25C Browning 2 . Im getting ready to submit it & would like some opinions on what I should expect. Any comments would be appreciated !
    It is slabbed now by another company but I dont agree with the grade they have given.
    Scans to follow-
     

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  3. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    Scans-:)
     

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  4. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll

    I don't know, is that some kind of surface damageon the bottom of the breast drapery, below the clasp, and above star 8? If so, it looks like it is bad enough to prevent encapsulation.

    beautiful clashes on the neck, though!
     
  5. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    I have seen that corrosion on almost every other B2 that I have found. Here is an ANACS MS60 with the same marks. & a NGS MS62.
     

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  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    I don't think it's corrosion CT - looks like it was struck with rusty dies. I don't know enough about bust coinage to say for sure, but it may well be that all examples of this variety were struck with the same rusty dies.

    As for grade, it's hard to judge by the pics as they are a bit out of focus. But I am tempted to say the coin is MS or high AU - would need better pics to say more.

    Who graded the coin that you disagree with Bud ?
     
  7. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    OK - here are some better pictures I hope.
    As for the company who graded it - let's just say that I think they graded it too high in this case.
     

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  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Much better with the pics :thumb:

    They do however show what I was unable to see before - wear. I'd say AU53.
     
  9. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    Im just confused then with this NGC MS62. It looks to me like it has the same amount of wear or even more compared to the one I have. Is the NGC one overgraded. Thanks for the imput-
     

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  10. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    How about AU-55

    Bone
     
  11. B12

    B12 Coin Hoarder

    There is wear but not much.So I'd AU55.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    In my opinion - yes. But I can't see it nearly as well as your pics.

    Look at the same pic you supplied - the areas I have circled in black show original luster. Now look at the areas I have circled in red. See how they are a different color - it's not because of toning. It's because of wear. When a silver coin experiences wear the luster is worn off, particularly on the high points of the design and the metal appears to be a different color.

    Notice how the red areas are all high points and the black all lower points - it's not coincidence. That is a typical wear pattern.
     

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  13. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    xf 45 cleaned (to remove PVC damage) clash marks on obverse
     
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