Guess the Grade - Isabella Quarter - Photo & Video

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ddddd, Dec 23, 2020.

  1. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    if you paid details money you got a steal
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  3. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    I like the look of SP for some of these near perfect strikes, as mentioned prior. Felis Navidad!
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  4. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

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  5. Paul M.

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    I also thought it looked a bit proofy for a second. The strike is razor sharp, and the rims do look a bit squared, though it's hard to tell for sure.

    Totally agree. There is nothing questionable whatsoever about this coin. PCGS is sometimes unjustifiably fussy about color, I've found. Once of these days, I'll post a Morgan dollar that's currently in a PCGS QC holder that came out of an ANACS straight graded MS holder. I was shocked to see that coin come back details, let me tell you.
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  6. ddddd

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    It was on the upper end of the unc details price range, bordering on MS 62 prices (although the spread isn't that high between AU 58, Unc Details, and the MS 60-62 range).
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  7. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    You did good, then. I probably would have gone for it at that type of price, although I wouldn't have had any shame about using the details label to bargain the seller down a bit. ;)

    I'm guessing you think it could also end up in good plastic, yeah? What would be your estimated grade, assuming it crosses into a straight graded PCGS or NCG holder? I think, based on this thread, 64 is not out of the question, which, after grading fees would probably put you a couple hundred ahead when you go to sell.
  8. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    It was an auction, so no bargaining. :)
    My guess is MS 63 with a chance at a star or PL (planning to send to NGC at some point in 2021). Currently it's a keeper as I like it and have looked for one for some time (it will replace something in my box of 20). So I could just leave it as-is, but I would want to see it out of a details holder.
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  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Pretty coin just the way it is. The TRUEVIEW and the slab image are really different on this one.
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  10. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    Oh!...perdon Mi Espanol!
  11. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Fair enough. I'd say a star would be practically a given, provided it straight grades. Like I said, I think 64 is realistic, so, if you'd be expecting a 63, I think you wouldn't be disappointed. I would certainly not hold my breath trying to get a PL though, even though I'd bet it reflected like crazy before it toned.

    ... he replies again in bad Spanish. :p Lol, just teasing ya!
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  12. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Yes they are. I first saw the slab image and then noticed there was a TrueView. I don't like to rely on TrueViews (have been disappointed before doing that) but felt this one was worth the risk at my bid. When I received it in hand, I was happy with the look.
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  13. David Betts

    David Betts Elle Mae Clampett cruising with Dad

    Sorry DDDD missed 1st post True View You have a wonderful Izzy! Happy Holidays a fine piece and one of the 1st and near last Barber commens. I 've been 2 years compiling the last Barber and Morgan's from 1892-1917 and finally have them. Congrats on a vey fine Izzy
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  14. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    There's a real skill to interpreting TrueViews, I've found. While there's a certain sense in which any photograph of a coin is a true representation of it, as seen by the unbiased eye of the camera sensor, given ambient conditions such as lighting, I think we all know what we mean when we talk about the "in hand" look. For me, that's always either under strong light, direct sunlight, or, even room light if the colors are vibrant enough.

    Once you compare a number of TrueViews to your version of the in hand look, it's not that hard to calibrate your expectations. I'm betting that your success level vis-à-vis TrueViews vs in hand has improved quite a bit over time, no? I know mine has.
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  15. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Generally I have learned to better read TrueViews but I still have found examples that ended up being quite a bit off. One or two might have been coins that turned (there was one proof Franklin that was way different) while others were just too enhanced for my liking. I prefer to have a normal slab photo or a video in addition to a TrueView when I'm buying (although I will still take a risk when the only photo provided is the TrueView).
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  18. David Betts

    David Betts Elle Mae Clampett cruising with Dad

    FYI Izzy Proof from 1974 encyclopedia of US Commematives

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