Grade opinions on this 1883 cc morgan?

The other day I noticed a guy had a ton of GSA morgan's for sale on ebay, for 220 a piece. I looked through about 15, and noticed that this one was particularly shiny, so I bought it. It's definitely a DMPL! So I'm pretty happy. I believe it will come back as a 63, maybe a 64? Any opinions?

 

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Hmmm, the pics won't open for me. From what I see MS-63-PL. OOPS, there it went. OK, how about MS-64-DMPL

B

 

63 Pl

 

MS 62 is my guess

 

Nice Morgan.....MS-64. B12

 

I consistently see these coins selling for less than grey sheet, and ideas why this is?

 

Wow - the Obverse eagle is AWESOME but why in the world do you think it will come in as a 63 or 64? Look at all those scratches.

Ruben

 

VAM 5A. Oh, you were asking about a grade. MS63-PL.

 

OK

Why?

 

I'll go with MS-62 PL

 

I can respect that, but those scratch marks on the face, IMO, aren't minor and are numerous. I can't see this as anything more than a 61. The reverse of this coin is awesome.

 

The picture definitely hugely exaggerates the scratches. Here is a scan of the coin, which is much different.

 

I don't think I need to tell you how I feel about your grading of coins, and amazing talent for grading off these photographs and scans. I neverr ask anyone else why they grade something as they do because, frankly, I doubt they have a consistent educated methodology!

This took me by suprise, however. When I cruise Heritage, the difference between the 60-61's and 63+s is almost always bag marks. Remember that hillarious thread about the guy who purchased that poor Morgan GSA coin titled "Worlds uglyiest mint Morgan" or some such title.

I thought that maybe you felt those scratches were more superficial that they look in the photo. But even still, there is still a lot of them. I bow to your expertise :}

Ruben

 

Can I see a bigger photo of the reverse? That Eagle is really well struck.

Ruben

 

Here you go:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6835/drawing0452pz.jpg

 

Ruben,

I'm with you on this one. People almost always grade Morgans higher than I would, even following the official ANA Grading Guide. To me, this coin shouldn't be over an MS62. Now, that's not to say it's not a nice coin. Like GD said, this might just be from the way that Morgans look in most photographs. I also think that the design is just very prone to bag marks on the cheek and neck, so they always look "scratched up" to me too.

 

Yeah, that is a pretty reverse. That breast on the eagle is just wonderful. Do you have a close up of just that detail?

Ruben