German Mints

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by cmbdii, Mar 3, 2005.

  1. cmbdii

    cmbdii New Member

    I was wondering what all are the German mints? And are any of them worth more than any other one? Also, are any of the mints that I have no longer producing coins? I have several German coins with different mints. My German coins include:

    Coins from Mint A:
    1962 1 Deutsche Mark
    1968 5 Pfennings
    1983 5 Pfennings
    1952 1 Pfenning
    1968 1 Pfenning
    1975 1 Pfenning
    1979 1 Pfenning
    1984 1 PfenningX2
    1986 1 Pfenning

    Coins from Mint D:
    1965 1 Deutsche Mark
    1989 50 Pfennings
    1990 50 PfenningsX2
    1985 10 Pfennings
    1950 5 Pfennings
    1971 2 Pfennings
    1971 1 Pfenning
    1988 1 Pfenning
    2002 1 Euro Cent (Uncirculated condition)
    2002 2 Euro Cent (Uncirculated condition)
    2002 5 Euro Cent (Uncirculated condition)
    2002 10 Euro Cent (Uncirculated condition)
    2003 20 Euro Cent (Uncirculated condition)
    2002 50 Euro Cent (Uncirculated condition)
    2002 1 Euro (Uncirculated condition)
    2002 2 Euro (Uncirculated condition)

    Coins from Mint F:
    1989 1 Deutsche Mark
    1950 50 PfenningsX2
    1968 50 Pfennings
    1981 10 Pfennings
    1977 2 Pfennings
    1989 1 Pfenning
    2002 1 Euro Cent

    Coins from Mint G:
    1979 1 Deutsche Mark
    1949 50 Pfennings
    1976 2 Pfennings
    1949 1 Pfenning
    1950 1 Pfenning
    1986 1 Pfenning

    Coins from Mint J:
    1970 10 Pfennings
    1950 5 Pfennings
    1966 5 Pfennings
    1970 5 Pfennings
    1981 5 Pfennings
    1986 2 Pfennings
    1987 1 Pfenning
    2002 2 Euro Cent

    Unknown Mints: (Unknown because I couldnt find a mint mark on the coin)
    1958 50 Pfennings
    1967 10 Pfennings
    1971 10 Pfennings
     
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  3. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    There are four German mints (state operated) and five different mint locations:
    A: Berlin (BE) http://www.Berlin.de/senfin/muenze/index.html
    D: München (Munich, BY) http://www.hma.bayern.de/index.htm
    F: Stuttgart (BW, see Karlsruhe)
    G: Karlsruhe (BW) http://www.staatlichemuenzenbw.de/
    J: Hamburg (HH) http://www.muenzehamburg.de/

    In terms of mint marks, "F" is usually the most frequent one. In general, Stuttgart has a production share of 24 percent, Munich and Hamburg 21% each, Berlin 20%, Karlsruhe 14%. But these proportions are not always observed.

    By the way, the names of the small units are "Pfennig" and "Cent".

    Sure there are some year/mintmark combinations that are more common than others. You could try this database for example:
    http://www.muenzen.net/datenbank/suche.htm

    Wert: enter the value - just the digit(s)
    Einheit: for single coins, select Pfennig or Mark
    Jahr: enter the year
    Buchstabe: select the mintmark

    The Berlin mint (A) is located in what used to be East Berlin, and made East German and GDR coins between 1948 and 1990. In late 1990 it started minting the coins of the Federal Republic. The other East German mint (Muldenhütten) made coins with the E mintmark until it was closed in 1953. And that was the only mint which was closed after WW2. There have been rumors for a while that Karlsruhe may be closed some day, but I do not see that happen in the near future :)

    Christian
     
  4. JBK

    JBK Coin Collector

    Ahaaaaa. The old Eastie Berlinmint explains why the quality of the A coins is noticably different.

    Also, can you order sets from each mint directly, or are they sold from one place?
     
  5. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Are the "A" coins really that bad? I usually get the Stuttgart pieces in an annual prooflike set, but the collectors coins from Berlin that I have got so far seem to be OK. From what I have read about the euro circulation coins, Austria, France and Ireland seem to make high quality pieces even with BU coins

    And no, the single mints do not sell coins to collectors. The Baden-Württemberg mint (F and G) has a few products in its "Eurosets" store http://www.eurosets.de/ but that is due to a cooperation with the Royal Dutch Mint. Collectors can buy coins from the Numismatic Office http://www.bwpv.de/sammlermuenzen.php3 which is part of the Federal Securities Administration. That office sells primarily on a subscription basis (and thus does not have a web store) but you can also place individual orders. It has a few English language pages too: http://www.bwpv.de/eng/collectorscoins.php3

    Christian
     
  6. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Are those aluminum coins with a "Deutsche Demokratische Republik" inscription maybe? In that case, they are from East Germany, and there should be a tiny "A" mint mark on the obverse - at the very top, right above the oak leaf.

    Christian
     
  7. cmbdii

    cmbdii New Member

    Ah yes, Its VERY tiny. And on the 50 Pfenning coin, its warn almost completely off. But thanks for the info!! As usual, you saved the day! Also, that site you listed as a reference...I dont understand it. Not because its in German, ( I used an online Translater to get a general idea of what it was saying) But it said the same thing for every coin, "Appraise unit description year metal maintenance price (EURO) catalogue levy"
     
  8. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Those are column headers, so to say. In English ...
    Wert and Einheit = face value
    Beschreibung = description (Here you will usually see Kursmünze, ie. circulation coin)
    Jahr = year (followed by the mint mark)
    Metall = metal, ie. composition or alloy
    Erhaltung = grade (see below)
    Preis = price (the approximate price, in euro, that you would have to pay for the coin when buying it from a dealer)
    Katalog = the Jaeger catalog number of the coin
    Auflage = mintage (usually one figure for PP/proof coins and one for the regular issue)

    As for the grades listed, "Polierte Platte" is proof or prooflike (specially produced pieces that you do not find in circulation). "Stempelglanz" is (Brilliant) Uncirculated (BU, unc), "vorzüglich" is Extremely Fine (EF), "sehr schön" is Very Fine*(VF), "schön" is Fine (F), etc. The conservation/grade highlighted in green is the most common one ...

    Christian
     
  9. JBK

    JBK Coin Collector

    I would not say bad, as such. But definitely different from the other German mints. This goes back to the pfennigs, as well. If you show me a few coins (with some mint luster - not worn) I can identify the A mint almost everytime just by the appearance of the strike. All of the devices and letters seem to have a slight convex (or is it concave?) area right next to the raised images. Not sure if this makes sense, but if you look at a few A coins you might see what I mean. It's almost as if the raised parts are being swept up of the surface of the coin.

    I agree that Ausria makes soem fine coins - well struck.

    Germany does also most of the time. I look at the edge of the 20 cent to get an idea. If it is fully struck, it will be wide and flat. If the coin is less fully struck, it will be rounded.
     
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