Frbn

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by silver surfer, Jun 23, 2005.

  1. silver surfer

    silver surfer Senior Member

    It seems i can't resist picking up some paper whenever i go to my coin dealer
    and today was no exception.
    This FRBN is far from perfect but has no rips or holes.
    I paid 50$ which i think was a fair price.
     

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  3. bzcollektor

    bzcollektor SSDC Life Member

    Yours is far nicer than these 3 I picked up last week at a flea market
    for $30 each. Mine are all in F-VF or so.
    These are my first FRBNs.
     

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  4. dollarcrazy

    dollarcrazy New Member

    You guys are doing it right... picking up very undervalued currency.
    These FRBNs have been over looked for way too long. The scarcity of them is generally unknown to the public, especially the high denominations of $50 and $100. Congratulations on the additions!
     
  5. bzcollektor

    bzcollektor SSDC Life Member

    I didn`t realize how scarce the FRBNs were. Most of the $20 were only
    issued for a few weeks in March 1933. Even the highest issue NY had only
    2,568,000 notes released. The Atlanta had under a million. Amazingly
    cheap. Sure, these notes are in the condition that makes them starter
    notes, but you have to start somewhere!

    Bruce
     
  6. dollarcrazy

    dollarcrazy New Member

    The number of note released are not that high... you are quoting the number of notes printed. The number of notes in high grade are few because they simply were not saved except by the wealthy.
    Many notes such as National Bank Notes can ONLY be found in circulated grades except those saved by Bankers themselves. FRBNs are no different. Try finding a San Francisco $5 in unc.
     
  7. bzcollektor

    bzcollektor SSDC Life Member

    Dollar, you mean not all of that number printed were issued?

    Currency grading seems looser than for coins. Do you agree on my grade of F-VF?
    I used to have a fair amount of currency back in the day. I only have 3 large size
    notes now, and these FRBNs.
     
  8. dollarcrazy

    dollarcrazy New Member

    bz; Not all notes printed were released. Many notes of this type never saw daylight. The only reason these FRBN's are available is that most collectors still confuse them with Nationals and the National Banknote collectors do not pursue them. They are rare when compared to Federal Reserve Notes, as rare as most small size Nationals, but have not been in demand. This has nothing to do with them being common. They are not. The large size FRBN's were the very same story except they are now highly prized.
    You are accurate in grading them F/VF in my opinion. A VF should have 70% of it's original body and only honest wear, without problems.
     
  9. silver surfer

    silver surfer Senior Member

    My coin shop guy did have a San Francisco FRBN(20$) which was in about the same condition as BZcollektor's F/VF.I think he was asking in the range of 75$ for it.
    He also had a beautiful 1899 black eagle silver cert(crisp unc) and aVF/XF 5$ indian chief,both were around 500$.
    I was tempted to pick up one of those but the price tag scared me off.
     
  10. dollarcrazy

    dollarcrazy New Member

    Silver Surfer; the price of a 1899 silver certificate $5 in VF/XF should be considerably higher. If there were NO serious problems with it. The $1 would be priced about right with the market. You might want to consider the Chief.
    They will always be in high demand and the supply will not be increasing...
     
  11. silver surfer

    silver surfer Senior Member

    I must be over grading the 5$ chief,it must be more of a F-FV condition.
    I think it was certified but can't recall the actual grade.
    Id love to own one before they increase even more.
     
  12. bzcollektor

    bzcollektor SSDC Life Member

    Thanks for the info dc. Like mintage figures with Morgan Dollars, I guess the notes
    printed figures don`t always tell the whole story.
     
  13. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Not to be disagreeable but do we know for a fact that not all of the notes were released?....I would think that the Feds would have sent them to the banks pretty fast and then the banks would have had to do something with them....

    Speedy
     
  14. KLJ

    KLJ Really Smart Guy

    Why should notes be any different than coins? We all know that 2002-2005 Sackies have never been released through normal distribution channels. Sold at an obscene profit to collectors, sure, but not sent to banks for use in commerce. The FR wouldn't release FRBNs to banks until they were called for by the banks.
     
  15. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    True...I would think Paper money would be much more wanted since they don't last as long as coins but....

    I have been trying for the past 2 years to get my bank to get a box of cents in...not for me since I don't collect coins past 1964 (unless they are silver-gold etc) but for some friends I trade with...well the other day the lady I know called and she has a whole box of 2005 UNC cents!!!!

    Speedy
     
  16. tradernick

    tradernick Coin Hoarder

    Regarding small frbn's, remember that the larger banks/cities typically had much larger runs than smaller places. There will probably always be plenty of new york, philadelphia, atlanta, etc, though honestly the premiums seem to be getting bigger on these. I can't tell you how many 20's I've bought for $22 and sold for $25 over the years! Now even the common ones ($20s) are stretching into the $35-$40 and up range, while the scarcer notes are going up in value like crazy. I have a crisp unc $5 from Evansville, IN that I've not owned before and I paid more than $200 just to get it...can't sell it if I don't have it, right?
    The "one papa" $5 note should be available for less than $500 in vf/xf. I've sold my last 3 or 4 of these for $450ish. I've got one in the store now.
    Some days there's more action in currency than there is in coins!
    Nick
     
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