Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Amberlarry22, Sep 20, 2021.
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Nice find i have one but on a ww2 era wheatie and a little bigger it appears to be a zilincon because of that rot happening by (IN)
Some people call it a clipped planchet but the proper numismatic term is an incomplete planchet (clip,clipped)has nothing to do with the process whatsoever.
Gee! All this time I thought a clip joint was a place to buy and sell coins like this.
Actually, it is no longer a planchet so what should we call a coin that was struck on a planchet with a clip? I'm serious. I'm going to check out ErrorRef. Thanks!
Definition: A curved clip is generated when a punch (blanking die) overlaps a previously-punched hole in the coin metal strip. The resulting blank ends up with a concave deficit. It is believed that a failure for the coin metal strip to advance properly through the blanking press is the root cause of this planchet error.
Multiple curved clips and overlapping curved clips do occur.
Some prefer the term “incomplete planchet” for this error, but we do not. [Neither do I and that's probably why I agree with the professional error guys. I don't recall ever hearing incomplete planchet used with clips. That's why I had to look it up. Thanks again for getting me to answer my own question.]
“Incomplete planchet” is non-specific and awkward to use. Saying that a coin was struck on a “curved incomplete planchet” or a “double curved incomplete planchet” creates more headaches than it solves."
I'm confused now by what I hear from the experts incomplete planchet is the correct term non the less im not trying to get into an argument just saying thats what they call the correct term.,the great paddyman98 even says that.
I think it’s one of those I say pototo and you say potato, I say tomato and you say tomoto. Know what I mean?
Yesdefinitely most absolutely!!!.
not trying to get into an argument just saying thats what they call the correct term.,the great paddyman98 even says that."
We are NOT ARGUING! I'm learning here. Are you pulling my leg? I never knew that "CLIP" = curved line incomplete planchet. Is that true? Then there should be a "SLIP" = straight line incomplete planchet.
We can all agree it is definitely a planchet error.
Ok lol I get your point.
Yea, just a bit. but this is a good way for the newer generation of numismatics to learn how to associate the old inaccurate term "Clip" with the scientifically correct term "Incomplete Planchet". I'm in for Slip to.
In days of old people would "Clip" the edge of a coin to "steal" a bit of precious metal. This is the reason most modern coins have reeded edges.
The name "Clip" was given to Incomplete Planchet coins because they look like Clipped coins of old that actually had the edge cut off by a person. A clipped coin is a whole coin that has some of the edge removed.
An Incomplete Planchet was made with part of it missing, it never was a whole complete planchet. (a blank at this point of manufacturing)
This is just one of a number of numismatic misnomers, that will not be changed easily because it has been ingrained into numismatic terminology since the mints began making coin blanks with an automatic feed blanking presses.
But please remember that Ignorance is an action that people preform when they do not want to learn or change.
I would think that anyone that takes the time to read this thread should learn something. At least I would like to think that.
When the "clip" occurs, it's a blank.
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