Finally, An Identification (Maybe)

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Bing, Sep 17, 2015.

  1. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    With the help of HammeredCoins (he did all the work), we have come up with a possible identification and attribution for this medieval coin I've had for many months collecting dust. I really had no idea of where to look, but HC thought he had seen something similar. He dug around till he found what he was looking for. So this is what we have agreed upon with perhaps a 95-98% certainty:
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    DENMARK, Eric (VII) of Pomerania
    Sterling (3 Penning)
    OBVERSE: Crown, ERICVS REX D S N
    REVERSE: cross potent, MONETA LVNDENSE
    Struck at Lund mint (Lund, Skåne (now Sweden), c.1413-1420
    0.65, 16mm
    Galster 9

    Eric of Pomerania KG (1381 or 1382 – 24 September 1459) was King Eric (Eirik) III of Norway (1389–1442), King Eric VII of Denmark (1396–1439), and King Eric (Ericus) XIII (VIII) of Sweden (1396–1439; known there in history mainly as Erik av Pommern). He was the first King of the Nordic Kalmar Union, succeeding his adoptive mother Margaret I of Denmark, and was also Duke Eric I of Pomerania.
     

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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Neat, always nice to ID something that was troublesome, especially that long :eek:

    Props to HammeredCoins.
     
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  4. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Nice job and an interesting coin.
     
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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Worth the effort Bing!
     
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  6. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

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  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Sweet score, Bing ... congrats on having clever coin-friends!!

    :rolleyes:

    Wow, you don't have too many medi-examples, eh? (they look pretty good on you)
     
  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    @Amos 811: I know next to zero about medieval coins and this coin would most likely be cast into my catchall box for impossible to ID coins. Give me a readable Roman coin or a Roman coin with some visible devices and there's a good chance I can ID it. I'll take any suggestions on this coin, it you think it's not Eric of Pomerania. BTW, If you're like most of us, the switch from modern coins to Ancients will be very easy.

    Really? You think I don't have many? How many is "too many"? Man, I'll tell ya. I own two. Is that enough for ya? :bucktooth:
     
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  9. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

    I just bought 5 really crappy looking ones, im gona see what i can do, and get some pics up here for you to look at. But on your coin, the 12,3,6,9 positions seem to match better with my example, in my opinion.
     
  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Other than the like to the one above, where can I find coins/information on Carlos el Nobel?
     
  11. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Bing, I once had numerous examples, but now I just own two as well and my desire to own more is quite low, except some of those that Steve has posted over the months....I think I'll stick with RR denarii and Greek examples for now LOL
     
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  12. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

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  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I really tried but I am having trouble keeping interest in some of the medieval coins of states that mean little to me. I spent a lot of time studying Greece and Rome and find interesting types in the East but Western Europe coins have been less appealing for some reason (certainly including the price some of them bring). Perhaps it is because there are so many of them from minor figures in history. Can someone promote interest in these? Below are a couple examples I have but am less sure why. These are relatively common coins compared to many. All are quite thin!

    Richard I of Normandy (not the Lionhearted)
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    Sigismund of Hungary
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    Guy II of Athens
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  14. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Yeah, all of those small thin medieval coins with crosses. I never have gotten into them much. I have some, I am a hoarder after all, but the only ones identified came that way. The rest go into the "I don't know and really don't care" box. Kudos to those, like @HammeredCoin , who can persevere with them though. :)
     
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  15. HammeredCoin

    HammeredCoin Active Member

    Thanks for the shout out Bing! Was a team effort. As Bing said we can't say with 100% certainty but we both feel some degree of confidence that it is either Eric of Pomerania or something very very closely related.

    Just happy for Bing to get an ID on a very interesting coin.
     
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  16. HammeredCoin

    HammeredCoin Active Member

    Doug, for me it takes a personal connection to a period in time to develop a passion for the coins and to out the hard work and study necessary to demonstrate proficiency in knowing the subtleties of each coin.

    I hold a coin from a period of history that fascinates me and I close my eyes and it takes me back to that period in the past. All I can think of is who else held the coin, who used the coin and for what purpose. This drives me than to want to learn more about that time.

    If you don't get that feeling from having that coin, than I would postulate that maybe you shouldn't bother owning the coin. These relatively common hammered coins shouldn't be bought as a particularly sound financial investment, but rather an investment in your love of learning and understanding of history.

    If you need to be sold on why you would want to own them, than I would say you already have your answer. I am sure there is a collector of each one of those coins who needs no convincing and they will value and appreciate each one.

    I don't mean to be harsh or sound smug. I really don't. But don't underestimate the impact that even minor figures of history have had to our collective present.

    "History teaches everything, even the future."
     
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  17. HammeredCoin

    HammeredCoin Active Member

    I think it's a close approximation but I don't think it's a match. (Not trying to say my guess is waaaaay better). I think the cross in the picture you provided is a little thinner and "A" in Bings coin is pretty clear and the example you provided does not show an "A" like Bing's.

    That being said, I don't want to speak on Bings behalf, but please keep posting potential matches so we can put our collective heads together to find an answer for our friend.
     
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  18. HammeredCoin

    HammeredCoin Active Member

    I am a glutton for punishment:)
     
  19. HammeredCoin

    HammeredCoin Active Member

    Thanks!
     
  20. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    You can speak on my behalf, especially on this coin. I would be lost without your help. If there is another coin that closely resembles my coin, I want to see it. I really want my attribution to be correct.
     
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  21. HammeredCoin

    HammeredCoin Active Member

    I do too. We both aren't professing to know. But maybe just getting someone who knows Scandinavian coins to look will get us to the "ah ha!" moment
     
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