Consumer Alert - World Reserve Monetary Exchange Offer

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Hobo, Nov 25, 2008.

  1. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Our local paper today ran a full-page advertisment for World Reserve Monetary Exchange. (I'm sure the ad appeared in many other papers around the country.) While I am not calling this a scam I find these types of ads troubling because I think they prey on people's fears and ignorance. Draw your own conclusions.

    At the top of the ad, sectioned off from the rest of the ad, is what at first glance appears to be a news article. (To comply with the law the words "PAID ADVERTISMENT" appear at the top of the ad.) The headline reads "Government regulators shutdown [sic] 19 banks" with a sub-headline reading "Hundreds more on watch list". A photo of a people outside an apparently closed bank has a caption reading, "LOCKED OUT: Stunned customers show up at this Californai bank only to find the bank is closed." The "article" reports that regulators have closed 19 banks so far this year and have over 100 banks on their watch list. SCARY STUFF!

    The "article" includes a way for readers to find out if their bank is "safe". For only $18 "readers of today's newspaper can either call or visit a web site to get the safety ratings of banks and credit unions.

    Below the "article" is a large ad (which could easily be mistaken for a news article) obviously targeting people that have been scared by the "news" reported in the "article" above that keeping your money in a bank may be unsafe. The headline reads, "Free armored safes being doled out to public". The sub-headline reads, "Public worry ends with just enough time left to beat the deadline to buy up new collection of brilliant never-circulated U.S. Gov't issued coins that never lose their cash value with free Armored Safes shipped to all". A photo shows row after row after row of safes with the caption, "HELP IS ON THE WAY". Smaller photos show a happy elderly woman taking delivery of her safe (the caption reads, "NO MORE WORRIES") and several rolls of Presidential Dollars and Jefferson Bison Nickels (the caption reads, LIKE WINNING THE LOTTERY").

    The "article" starts off with a by line Shawn Oyler - Universal Media Syndicate. Sounds legitimate to the Average Joe. (Shawn Oyler is the by line on many such ads.)

    "Imagine finally getting something that will never lose its value.
    Sound too good to be true?
    Well, it's true and word is quickly spreading about the free handout of Armored Safes filled with the never-before-seen World Reserve Collection of U.S. Gov't Coins. Each massive Collection contains 4,100 brilliant, never-circulated U.S. Gov't issued coins that by law will never be minted again."

    The ad, er, article goes on to say, "Coin values above face value can always fluctuate and there are no guarantees. But, this massive Collection will nener, never, never lose its face value. You will always have something worth a lot of money." Well, that's reassuring.

    Here's how the plan works. If you buy the 4,100 "U.S. Gov't issued, never-circulated" coins within the 72-hour deadline (read "HURRY! Buy now! Don't think about it! Time is running out!) World Reserve Monetary Exchange will throw in an "Armored Safe" for FREE!


    Here's how:

    The 4,100 coins you receive are $100 Presidential Dollars (face value = $100) and 4,000 Jefferson Bison Nickels (face value = $200). That is $300 worth of coins. These coins do not command a premium for an average collector who wants to sell these coins.

    What does all this cost? "When you call you'll only need to cover the freight for the safe [no amount is specified] and $98 for the first months [sic] collection shipment then just $98 for each of the 18 monthly shipments to complete the entire collection of 4,100 U.S. Gov't coins." That's 19 payments of $98 for a total of $1,862 plus an unknown amount for freight. Sounds like you're gonna be paying $1,532 (plus freight) for that "FREE" Armored Safe.

    A person that doesn't read this ad, er, article carefully may think they are getting 4,100 Presidential Dollars AND a free safe for less than half the face value of the coins themselves. (Just an observation. I'm not accusing nobody of nuttin.)

    The ad, er, article also uses some fancy-sounding (and almost deceptive) verbiage, to wit: "100 Presidential Golden Dollar Coins in two sealed Ballistic Vault Rolls of 50 and 16 heavy vault bricks containing 160 sealed vault rolls of 25 never-circulated U.S. Buffalo Nickels". Where have I heard "Ballistic Vault Rolls" before? (That's right! I've seen ads for dollar coins in Ballistic Rolls in very similar-looking ads before.) And those "heavy vault bricks"? In the photo they look like gold-colored plastic shaped like gold bricks and are probably only heavy due to the 250 nickels contained in each one. And how about the 160 rolls of 25 Buffalo Nickels? The casual observer may think they are getting 4,000 uncirculated Indian Head Nickels. Since when do Presidential dollars come in 50-coin rolls and nickels come in 25-coin rolls? Do you think these coins have been cherrypicked? (I am not accusing anyone of any wrongdoing whatsoever here. I'm just asking questions.)

    A quick Google search reveals that World Reserve Monetary Exchange also sells a "Presidential Safe" (40 payments of $109.88 = $4,395.20).

    For some reason I think World Reserve Monetary Exchange is in the business of selling safes.

    Bottom line - Many people who don't understand that these 4,100 coins are only worth face value will be led to paying $1,862 for $300 worth of coins and a safe of unknown value. Later, when they try to sell their coins that are "worth a lot of money" they will realize what a bad purchase they have made. And the hobby of coin collecting will get another black eye.
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  3. ziggy9


    they obviously are looking for people that don't know "$h*t from Shawn Oyler" But the again most people these days don't know what Shinola is.

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  4. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    Good write-up, Hobo! I'd send that to them and see what they say. Better yet, I'd sent it to UPS (Universal Press Syndicate). They don't like bad press, especially caused by one of their own.
  5. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    This kind of crap is in the newspaper here in houston every day.
  6. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

  7. CoinCrave

    CoinCrave Member

    I'd rather buy $1200 in coins and buy a huge safe from walmart.
  8. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    But the coins won't be in Ballistic Rolls. :whistle:
  9. CoinCrave

    CoinCrave Member

    What are ballistic rolls? Sorry I'm new to coin collecting.
  10. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I wish I knew. This same company runs full-page ads in newspapers all the time offering dollar coins in 'Ballistic Rolls'. They make out that these coins are rare and valuable and hard to find and they sell them for inflated prices to those that don't know any better.
  11. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    I thought that ballistics was the science of mechanics that deals with the motion of projectiles. Perhaps they're going to shoot these rolls at us if we don't buy them?
  12. kvarterto

    kvarterto Senior Member

    Perhaps the rolls are ballistic proof? :confused:
  13. NPCoin

    NPCoin Resident Imbecile

    Better yet, send it to your State and Federal Attorney General's office.
  14. cesariojpn

    cesariojpn Coin Hoarder

    A clever marketing ploy to get unsuspecting idi...erm, I mean "Marks" to buy overpriced shenanigans.
  15. C Jay

    C Jay Member

    Maybe they come in a mil-spec depleted uranium casing and thats why they cost so much. For an extra 2500.00 they will sell you a Geiger counter, so if you bury it in the back yard, you can find it later.
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It is probably because the mint calls what they use to ship the coins in ballistic bags.
  17. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    And those ballistic bags are made of Kevlar if I am not mistaken.
  18. Aeschi96

    Aeschi96 New Member

    Question about your "free safes" ad

    Hi. I'm new here, but in today's Charlotte (NC) Observer we had our version of the free safe ad too. I teach a course on advertising and want to use this ad in the deceptive ads section. That part's easy, but I do have a question. Our ad included a map of the U.S. indicating that only readers in North and South Carolina were eligible for the safes, with the rest of the county crossed out. (No reason was given for this implausible notion.) My question is: did your paper there in Colorado have such a map? How about the rest of you?

    Thanks very much for the numismatic information on the coins themselves. I couldn't have come up with that information on my own.

    Don Poe
    Pfeiffer University
    Charlotte, NC
  19. Soj

    Soj New Member

    Directly from the WRME homepage:

    "Each and every nickel, quarter and dollar has been handed over in a powerful and unique presentation designed to protect the valuable money and maximize the potential for increase in collector value, but the increase is not guaranteed. It's important to remember that the increase in collectible value of certain prior issues of United States Coins and currency does not guarantee that current issues will also increase in collector value."

    So Basically, they are selling you a novelty item in a nice, fancy box to make it look "official." You may as well collect state quarters. Take a look at some of these pictures on their site, it's actually pretty funny. I like the one with the guy sitting at a table, reading a War & Peace sized book, and drinking a glass of wine in his wine cellar and his presidential safe proudly displayed next to him. Except, the price tags are still on the chair...

    BTW, the safe that the newspaper ad shows is sold at for $872.00- so buying it through the ad is actually more expensive than buying it from their online store. I wonder if this is even a real presidential safe? It doesn't even have the official seal on it and somehow I doubt the president uses a personal home safe for his money.
  20. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    Oh I have seen that add a couple of months back. Listen , those folks are just like the "hawkers" on coin shows . Theres a sucker that thinks they are going to get the jump on everybody else and build their reserve assets. Too funny.
  21. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Ooooh OOh must just run out and buy one LOL Honestly I dont think such ads should be allowed :headbang:
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