Coins stolen

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by sylvester, Jan 29, 2005.

  1. sylvester

    sylvester New Member

    This has been announced on other newgroups in the past few hours by a
    dealer friend of mine, but if anyone comes across any of the following
    coins;


    Crown 1663 bright Good EF
    Crown 1687 choice
    Crown 1695 OCTAVO S3470, ESC 87 Unc or near so and retaining some
    original brilliance
    Crown 1700 DVODECIMO Good EF with underlying mint bloom and a few
    flecks of haymarking S3474
    Crown 1821 SECUNDO Choice even grey tone toned
    Crown 1845 choice grey tone
    Crown 1847 Gothic choice, toned
    Crown 1893 LVI EF
    Crown 1893 LVII Unc
    Crown 1894 LVIII Unc lovely tone only the odd minor bag mark prevents
    the piece being choice
    Crown 1960
    Crown Good EF some origibal brilliance strong strike
    Farthing 1719 EF with a hint of lustre reverse, pleasing S3662
    Five Guineas 1686
    Five Guineas 1700
    Five Guineas 1729 NGC MS63 as further certification ensues this piece
    will surely prove to be high or top of the population statistics
    Half Noble Edward III Treaty Series S1506 EF
    Half Sov 1899 Unc
    Half Sov 1915s Unc
    Halfcrown 1698 DECIMO ESC 554 better than EF with some original
    brilliance, some flecks of haymarking obverse
    Halfcrown 1917 Unc
    Halfcrown no problems Unc with some originally brillaince, as godd as
    you will see for this date
    Halfpenny 1685 James II in Tin Obverse No Stop after SECVNDVS. BMC
    539. NVMMORVM FAMVLVS (5 pointed mullets). Weight 11.07g. With the
    exception of a few small spots of corrosion, this piece is practically
    as struck with almost full tin lustre, even on the edge, which is
    complete and intact. Ex Cooke's Nicholson sale Cooke stated ".... it
    is difficult to imagine an example in a finer state of preservation"
    Halfpenny 1753 PCGS AU58
    Halfpenny 1868 Cupro-Nickel Proof
    Penny 1825 Proof in copper pleasing aFDC with a hint of lustre and
    rare
    Penny 1855 Unc lustre
    Rose Ryal James I Second Coinage 1605-06 mint mark Rose S2613 pleasing
    Good VF or better and ex Garrett sale. London Coins Nov 2004 Lot 662
    Shilling 1856 EF
    Sixpence 1675/4 NGC MS65




    Any of those then email me and let me know and i'll get you through to
    the right people who have the contacts for the collector that's had
    them stolen.

    This is any collector's worst nightmare and the more publicity we can
    get the harder it will be for the crooks to sell them on.
     
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  3. sylvester

    sylvester New Member

    Forgot to mention, robbery took place in Surrey, UK, on 26th January.
     
  4. susanlynn9

    susanlynn9 New Member

    When did this happen?
     
  5. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    I can personally attest to that fact. That collector must be feeling sick to his stomach.

    Good luck to him on recovering his coins, and bringing the criminal(s) to justice.
     
  6. sylvester

    sylvester New Member

    Even worse actually Jody, new info suggest the guy that's had them pinched was actually a dealer. So not only have they taken his coins but also a substantial part of his livelihood.

    So of those pieces are irreplacible in the scheme of things. The James II tin coin being one of the ones. 17th century tin coins with near full lustre are probably less than 2% of the total surviving population. That's my hazarded guess but tin corrodes real bad.
     
  7. Art

    Art Numismatist?

    What is the likely venue for the thief or thieves to dispose of these items. They're not the kind of thing you walk into any local coin store and sell.
     
  8. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    I can certainly understand how those pieces would be irreplacible, Sylvester.
    Hopefully, as a dealer, the gentleman had his inventory insured. That would at least cover his investment, and keep him in business.

    Insurance is a must, not only for the dealer, but the collector, as well. ;)
     
  9. Ciscokid

    Ciscokid New Member

    :mad: GRRRRRRRR :mad: If I get my hands on this low life thief, there will be no need to spend taxpayers money on trial--
     
  10. KLJ

    KLJ Really Smart Guy

    This seems to me like the type of thing that an intelligent criminal (which I will confess is arguably oxymoronic) would take up to London or another big city. An unfamiliar face with rare, but hardly unheard of, coins is much less likely to be questioned there about the coins' provenance than another dealer in the Surrey area would do.

    Unfortunately, Ebay is also a pretty easy way to get rid of stuff like this.
     
  11. sylvester

    sylvester New Member

    Well dealers have been, informed as have auction houses.

    It turns out that it was an armed robbery, as far as we can tell no one was hurt, it occurs at the dealer's house.

    The dealer is Mark Davidson who was part of the team that wrote the Coincraft catalogue of UK coins. So it's quite a high profile dealer.

    Sounds like a professional job to me.
     
  12. dotts

    dotts New Member

    Thats too bad.

    Hopefully the authorities will catch the scumbags that were involved.
     
  13. thatsit

    thatsit New Member

    Has there been any updated info on this robbery? Now a year later?
     
  14. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    Sylvester,
    Is this the same Mark Davidson that helped edit the hammered coin part of the Coincraft Catalog?
    I'm pretty sure I once purchased a George III sixpence from his place in Surrey,not in person..e-mail and snail mail.I hope his coins are recovered.
    By the way,WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN??
     
  15. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Miko
    Sylvester posted this last year....but it was posted in again so that is why it looks new.

    Speedy
     
  16. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    Thanks Speedy,wonder where the Limey is anyway?
     
  17. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I've been wondering the same thing....maybe I'll PM him later on today.

    Speedy
     
  18. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Perhaps it might be better to publize the NGC number? Or by ridicious luck, you might be able to find some idiot trying to sell them on scambay?
     
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