Cheyenne multiple Mint error ( Museum beauty )

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  1. themansionshop

    themansionshop Junior Member



    [TD="bgcolor: #000000"]One of the most Spectacular & Impossible error coin ever Minted!
    " Cheyenne "
    and Also one of the most controversial coin which has had both scientific and logical criticism , meaning that Relevant facts are said not to have been definitely established as true, or the likelihood that they are true , has not been established. The presentation of facts has been biased , important and relevant facts of the total factual context has been ignoredfor exampleThis coin has been publicised in the Canadian coin newspaper, only that the topic was about a controversy about the pricing of the coin instead of facts pertaining to the actual details about the actual facts itself and relevance to this mint error prospects all together but that would be due to the poor quality pictures(see below) that I had at the time .
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    ****** all errors on this coin are raised
    **** no dents or any damage is found on this coin, it is GUARANTEED genuine.
    **** This coin is i n t a c t



    Actual item is in XF (Extremely fine)+++. ,
    (1 known to exist,R8 or unique)
    among the very finest collections ever built. A museum item, if indeed acquired by a museum, will forever be out of private hands. A remarkable Major error coin that equals the single most desirable coin of any Major errors ever offered. An unimaginable opportunity to own one of the Greatest and most Perfect & complex Error coin ever minted in history of error numismatic for not only because of it's true Major errors but also because of it's splendid and unique work of Art.
    ULTRA ERROR COIN! This is one of the most complex and Perfect error ...EVER MINTED IN HISTORY!



    ULTRA ERROR COIN!
    Here you have the One of a kind 1977 Queen Elizabeth " Cheyennee " .
    the Leaf or Feather resemblance ) which is missing on the reverse ,completes the Maple leaf design if put one and one together and that is just Incredible!, have you ever seen anything like this before? A mis strike or lamination on one side of the coin and it struck on the other side! The extra Number 7 for a total of 3 7's and a double strike on the reverse and the mathematical perfection of the flipover strike ....accounts to only this: A Dramatic and perfect error, but more than just an error, a piece of art, a perfect and beautiful painting of an Indian girl with her own unique nose and unique lips and a feather in her hair , a Museum beauty and in no doubt a one (1) Complete R-8 ( Rarety scale-8=1,2 or 3 known to exists )or Unique error and URS-1 ( Universal Rarety scale )meaning; 1 known to exists and unique of course.
    the 1st strike on the reverse misses to strike a leaf or possible lamination which now discloses thesmall maple leaf ;this part is normally hidden on all penny ever minted , Double strike again now showing part of maple leaf on maple leaf + overflip,180 degree reverse strike on observe, strikes missing leaf from reverse on observe Queen's chin + #7 from 1977 printed on observe : total 3 7's-
    1- Mis strike or possible lamination of part of Maple Leaf, now revealing most of the small Maple leaf.
    2- Double die strike of Part of Maple leaf on top of Maple leaf.
    3- 180 Degree Overflip Strike of Reverse die on Observe.



    ULTRA ERROR COIN!


    the position of the Leaf :where does the Leaf ends up in? not off a little from her head and outside or inside her face but nicely curved inside her hair . The strike fits in perfectly in shape with her figure[​IMG], the straight nose which is a partial strike of the # 7 [​IMG], the little unique lips which accounts to a strip of the leaf [​IMG]
    It wasn't until 1990 or 13 years later that the new observe design of the Queen revealed a design of a pearl earring bud . Below you see the bud from the maple leaf which in return does somewhat look like a pearl earring. The whole picture now looks in the same time , very realistic and somewhat convincing but also Mathematically correct but nevertheless it's only a Major and very unique Mint error.
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    , we know there are 2 leafs , 1 on the right which takes account for full visibility and the one in the background , the one to the left which shows some of the leaf[​IMG].
    Now we look at the " Cheyenne" and we see a switch if you like . The left leaf is now almost fully visible and takes the major role and the leaf to the right now is secondary .[​IMG]


    Now you see that the observe of the coin is " unfinished" compared to the regular 1 cent piece but The missing piece of the puzzle is located on the reverse part of the missing leaf , hence this is a complete portrait after all if put one and one together.
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    and finally the triple 7's . [​IMG] + [​IMG] = 7 7 7
    Now this is what I call an " Ultra, One of a kind Dramatic error "


    This coin is in circulated in XF - AU, with nice strong details and it hasn't been cleaned.

    I have seen double struck coins, I have seen broadstrikes, off-metals and off-centres coins. I have seen Double overlap and partial brockages , underlap and overlaps edge variable and of course flip over's double strikes but I have never seen anything and probable netheir have you seen a true Piece of art caused by a Minting press error that didn't at all deformed the design but transformed it to looking like another beautiful portrait, a transformation of the Queen. We all know what the overflips double or triple strikes looks like at the end Gentleman and in most cases it ain't no Leonardo Da Vinci, nevertheless a Picasso is always interesting and I must admit that some are just spectacular to see.



    Let me tell you about why this type of erro is unique beside the tricky stunt of the flipover this Penny did when it was striked by the press and missed to print partial of the leaf on the reverse and ended up striking it on the observe .....
    Really most overflipped double striked coin out there are common to see or were, the observe is printed and so is the reverse + that reverse or observe then printed on that opposite side showing then 2 sides on one, but partial print missing and an overflip and struck on reverse for now a complete design is very uncommon or unheard of and this partial missing print is the leaf which ended up in the Queen's cheek + that number 7 from the reverse date of 1977 for a total of three 7's and most of us knows the definition of that meaning...lucky 7's.

    But then again overflip or broadstuck coins , clips and off centres, double strikes , off-planchets(such as 1 cent design on a quarter cent blank ) coins struckon foreigh blanks or double denominations ( like a 10 cent design on a already struck 1 cent coin )those types were error types a thing of the past. after 1971 when the Winnipeg plant opened his doors. The minting presshad a new state-of-the-Art Press whose feeding striking and ejection mechanisms made some error types obsolete. The new presses, unfortunately for the error collector, eliminated a lot of errors because the mechanical finger-feed mechanism was replaced by a 12 coin feeder that looked like the cylinder of a Smith & Wesson and you know what that means.
    The sides of the chambers of the 12 coin feeders were designed so that blanks could no longer jump out of their slots easily and cause overlapping in the striking chamber to create brokerage. Again off-centres became very scarce (R-4 = 76 to 200 examples )if not rare ( R-5 = 31 to 75 examples ) so after 1971 , 1972 and moving forward, the only errors advertised lately are die varieties struck in some quantity , variations resulting from different blank compositions, changes to the Mint logo ( with or without the "W" or the" circle M " logo. or , most involvingthe two pieces of the $2 coins that overlapped eachother. How accurate are my comments about the scarcity of Winnipeg-produced errors? Well, have you seen a lot of errors lately?, other than the $2 coins?Today , The Mint strikes all circulation coins in Winnipeg with excellentequipment that has very sophisticated feeding and ejection mechanism. The human inspectors were replaced by electronic inspection equipment,which doesn't take coffee breaks and isn't distracted by nearby employees.
    So here you have it, The " Cheyenne "
    Error Mechanism.....
    Ultra 3 x Major Errors
    Reverse Error : ( 2x Major Errors )
    *Mis-Print or lamination of reverse partial leaf (1) from Big Maple Leaf, [​IMG]
    striked with overflip 180 degree rotation on Observe ,printed on Queen's chin + 1 in hair
    + number # 7 from 1977 printed on Queen's face for a total of 3 X 777
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    * (2) complete design ( missing leaf from reverse struck on observe ) and that is just magnificient!
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    + double die strike of partial leaf on Reverse (3) [​IMG]
    Observe Error : ( 2x Error )
    disclosure of missing small Maple Leaf (now naked) due to Mis-print or lamination of part of leaf from big Maple leaf, never seen before (4) .
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    A total of 3x MAJOR Errors !
    Double rare ERROR = R-8 or Unique ( 1 or 2,3 specimens exists ) +URS 1(Universal Rarety scale ) 1 Known of its Kind.
    1 known to exists for this type of error.
    The " Cheyenne " would constitute in no doubt to be TOP #1 in any Error Collector's Portfolio,
    A Beautiful addition. A coin to speak of not only of it's beauty but also of the story it has to tell and of it's uniqueness.
    and also of it's mathematical error mechanism print process, the complexity that have happened for this error to have become it, which in fact is exceptional and perfect! And in no doubt a true Museum Error.
    the only known penny ever minted revealing:
    * the hidden small maple leaf
    * A complete design with that missing partial maple leaf from the reverse being struck on the observe.

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    3 7's

    * Partial double die strike on Reverse
    * flipover
    * and a preserved unique facial characteristic.






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  3. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Nice coin but it is not as valuable as you seem to think it is. this is a flip over double struck coin. this means it was struck then the coin flipped
    over in the collar and got struck again.
     
  4. themansionshop

    themansionshop Junior Member

    your'e not reading the info on this coin. there is much more than just a flip over double struck error here. firs some of the leaf is missing from the observe compared to the regular observe, than the revere shows that missing part on the reverse , then the x 7 and the double die observe strike. please look at it further and read all about it before suggesting about it. thank you
     
  5. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    I have a question: how much was it offered for? and is it slabbed?
     
  6. redwin117

    redwin117 Junior Member

    Ok! I agree with you that you have a legitimate errors. Now the question is how much are you asking for that canadian cent error?
     
  7. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    **nm about my previous 2 questions, ($1,350,000 and no)
     
  8. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    i would say this coin may be worth 150.00 U.S. dollars
     
  9. themansionshop

    themansionshop Junior Member

    think again. first you have to read the error info anf understand it which not to many people do cause it's too much complicated for them to understand and then if you did read and understand it than you can put a value to it//you see?
     
  10. themansionshop

    themansionshop Junior Member

    LMAO, a flip over double stirke is all you see? wow what an eye you have. EDITED, no professionals but keep talking about it, it;s veryfunny
     
  11. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    This coin is just exactly what I told you it is. the coin was struck twice in the
    collar with the coin being flipped over between strikes. all of the coin's details of the first strike that were out in the level fields was wiped out by the second
    strike. the details of the first strike that are still visible was protected by the deeper recessed areas of the dies. It's a real nice error coin but not extremely valuable.
     
  12. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    IF that were my coin and I wanted to market it to maximize my profits and get alot of exposure.. I would probably send it to either Ken Potter or Mike Diamond. Let them decided what the coin is, perhaps get some write ups in CoinWorld or Numismatic News, then commission the coin with Heritage.. But thats just me.. what do I know.

    Oh and I am not an expert.. I do play one however on a few of the Boards I happen to be a part of..
     
  13. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    You sir are special, even unique. So am I. So is that coin. Just please don't insult a person's intelligence over the internet based based on a few posts on a coin forum.
     

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  14. redwin117

    redwin117 Junior Member

    Your coin is Not Double Denomination but a flip over details of a same canadian cent which is also a legitimate errors But not Most EXPENSIVE/POPULAR ERRORs. Please read Coin Fact Encyclopedia/Errors..Hope your coin error listed here as One Expensive errors in Numismatist world.
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  15. redwin117

    redwin117 Junior Member

    Here is One Example of a 1995 Double Denomination of 11c with Two Full dates obverse a Key dates, Two LIBERTY, Two IN GOD WE TRUST, P Mintmark, VDB and skull break & crackdie variety obverse, Now on the reverse, UNITED STATE of AMERICA,FG Initial, ONE CENT,ONE DIME, E Plu, a lincoln Memorial Building Split in Half with some Images of Explosion at the Step of the Building a Crackdie variety, Dime reeding is very neat and plain partial edges of a cent, NO DINGS on a ny part of a rim, A two great president images of Obverse Lincoln/Roosevelt penny/Dime. plus u add on a Mirror proof like in some areas Obverse & reverse. 105-4-2-1-1.jpg edges1abcdef201995-1.gif SuperUltimateUniquePhoto.jpg Reverse Double Deomination Unique 11c 2.jpg
     
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  17. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    The marketing scheme didn't work last time and it won't work this time.

    Window dressing/Hype = $0.00 added value.

    It's obvious that the only ooooohs and aaaaaahs are from the owner of this coin and not from the audience or even from the coin collecting world.

    The desire for this coin doesn't coincide with the owner's misperceived value of this coin.
     
  18. minterror

    minterror New Member

    Sorry to say but this coin is a Picasso compared to the cheyenne and there is much more to the Cheyenne than just a flip over double strike, it's actually the most complex error yet
     
  19. minterror

    minterror New Member

    I have been collecting Mint errors for almost 4 decades now and the cheyenne sure does look good to me and it's definitively very complex and no doubt a museum error in my book/
     
  20. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    WOW! Would you please tell me what else you see on this coin other than a flip over double strike? I can not see anything else from just looking at the photos so maybe you can tell me what you see. I'm a old time coin collector and still like to learn new things.
     
  21. minterror

    minterror New Member

    well, first thing I would do is read the info , tells you a lot about this Canadian coin, I bet you could take it from there and see it for yourself afterwards.
    Regards
     
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