byzantine I.D. help plz

Is this one identifiable? thanks

 

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Not by me, not enough to go on.

 

Byzantine bronze cup-shaped trachy
From the 9th - 12th century AD
Without inscription, hard to identify the emperor who issued it

 

I'd guesstimate that it's more towards the 12th century.

 

thats more than I can come up with Thanks

 

When I see a coin this ragged my first suspicion is the Latin rulers 1204-1261 for which this is pretty well struck. They copied old types and made up new ones but the ordinary Byzantine books like Sear dismiss them as a complicated mess and I do not have the specialized works. Of course I'd give that ID no more than a 50-50 shot. I'd try the Forvm Byzantine board in the hopes someone there has a clue.

 

Assuming its official, its either John III or Michael VIII, given the patriarchal cross on the reverse. But I think its a little too rough for that, so I'd say Latin Empire of Constantinople, 1204-1261 AD.

compare: http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/forumancientcoins/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=15793 (they don't mention the patriarchal cross, but it may very well be there)

 

OK I'll try there tonight, thaks

 

Thanks, sorry I missed your post. posted at the same time

So do you think I should label it like this?

"Latin Empire of Constantinople, 1204-1261 AD.(If official, John III or Michael VIII)"

 

I'd write:

Latin Empire of Constantinople
AE trachy, 1204-1261 AD
(Obv description that I'm too lazy to type)
(Rev description that I'm too lazy to type)
Sear #

 

Heres the response I got from forum

"This is a Latin trachy, a Sear 2021, Hendy Type A or a sear 2044 depending on size, 2021>2044 my guess is a 2044.


Obverse: virgin nimbate std on throne with back wearing tunic and maphorion holding nimbate head of Christ on breast

Reverse: Emperor stg, wearing stemma, divitision, and chlamys, holding labarum in r. and anexikakia in l."

 

I've been tryen, to I.D. most, I still suck though , but heres 2 I think I was able to id correctly

Justinian I AE Follis. Constantinople mint. D N IVSTINIANVS PP AVG, diademed, draped & cuirassed bust r. / Large M between star and cross; above, cross; beneath, officina letter; CON in ex.


Justin II Æ Follis. Nicomedia mint. D N IVSTI NVS P P AVI, Justin, on left, holding globus cruciger, and Sophia, on right, holding cruciform scepter / large M, ANNO to left, regnal year right, NIKO in ex.