Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Southernman189, Dec 21, 2021.
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I was going to put the coin in a normal paper flip with staples but unsure about the documentation about being certified. could just toss the cert. I guess
I cant remember if those flips are sealed or not, or if yours is. If its not you could take the coin out and could probably sell the cert for a few bucks to someone. There are people that collect those so I wouldnt throw it away
yeah it is stapled that's another reason coin was dark and the coin collector was mad, he spent good money for that
The picture on it would be how to match them up anyways since you can staple anything to anything. I dont see any reason why you shouldnt move the coin if you wanted to
They have 0 impact on authenticity. The authenticity is from the pictures on the cert in this case. A stapled flip means nothing
For a long time they've just been flips with stickers.
The ones I’ve seen saw genuine. Good enough for me consider it authentic:
Huh? You seem to be missing the entire point or didnt explain that well
It’s my explanation.
wasn't bodybagged. That is how they were done and packaged by ANACS from 1972 to 1990. That is the certificate style they used from roughly 12/18/1985 to 12/18/1986. It's listed in my book as ANACS 7. If it was bodybagged the certificate would have said CLEANED or some other designation.
We do prefer to have them with the coin that belongs with it though. I don't believe the ANACS 7 certificate is a rare one (although all of them are becoming scarce) but an ANACS 7T would be. The T indicates a Transfer certificate which was issued when a owner sold a coin and sent it back to ANACS to have the ownership transferred and a new certificate issued. Those certificates have the word TRANSFER on them and include both the original certification date and the date the ownership was transferred. Very few collectors ever bothered to send a coin back to ANACS for transferring so all transfer certificates are rare.
Listen to Conder folks, he knows his slabs.
@Conder101 do you recall if any certificates mentioned to remove the coin from the flip (as that was just meant as temporary storage)? For some reason I thought I saw that but maybe I'm just making it up.
Theres a reason the TPGs switched to slabs lol.
Honestly though if NGC was smart they'd bring it back for ancients or at least offer it as an option instead of the slab
There were few to no slabs yet, so this was the way it was done. Plus the majority of coins were still kept raw at that time. The flip was used to send it in to grade (just like flips are still used today). Once the person got the coin back, it was up to them to move the coin into something more appropriate for long term storage. I've seen Anacs photo certs where the coin was moved to a capital plastics holder. I've also seen some in those same flips where the coin was still fine many years later.
None of the certificates did, and I don't recall any advice to do so on any other paperwork from them.
There is no evidence presented that the individual that you received the piece from, had actually 'submitted" the piece to another TPG for graded encapsulation.
It seems more likely to me that the individual assumed it had been "body bagged", because of lack of knowledge, and viewed the flip and and the staple as a 'rejection'.
Leave it alone. I would, without counting, estimate I have 40+ of the same ANACS encapsulated pieces attached to the certificate, and I would not consider removal and/or resubmittal. It is the history and the piece is what it is.
Do what you want, though. It is your piece.
Lastly, had the piece been sent to another TPG for grading, it would not have been returned in the manner your photos depict.
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