Bizarre 1946 Nickel with "1946" date overstamped -- with backwards 4!

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  1. Jamboree

    Jamboree Junior Member

    Bizarre 1946 Nickel with "1946" date overstamped -- with backwards 4! (Now w/ pic)

    I just found in my change one of the strangest nickels i've ever seen. I'm not sure if it is a minting error, some kind of experimental issue, or just a unique item created by some random prankster long long ago.

    Here's the description:

    It's a normal 1946 (Philadelphia) standard Jefferson nickel in fair/good condition (i.e. heavily worn down with normal wear and tear) that has one freakish attribute: over the 1946 date, someone has re-stamped the numbers "1946" incuse-style, very precisely done, except for a very strange glitch: the "4" is backwards!

    You can still see remnants of the original 1946 date beneath the overstamping, which makes even less sense, since why re-stamp the same date over the old date?

    In every other respect, the nickel looks completely normal -- there is no flaw in the leg of the "R" in "Pluribus," so it is not a Henning counterfeit.

    Is this a known error? Anyone ever seen anything like it before? Anyone know what its origins might be? I suspect it was just some guy experimenting with a die-stamp at home back in the '40s, but still can't figure out why the "4" is backwards.

    If it helps, I can try to take a picture of it and post that. Thanks.
     
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  3. yorkiedad5

    yorkiedad5 Senior Member

    we need a pic thanks
     
  4. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Just my opinion , post mint damage , when a date is punched in a die it is incused so it will come out raised on a coin , even a repunchened date is incused in the die thus it would have to be raised on a coin . Since yours is incused on the coin , most likely occurred after it left the mint .
    rzage
     
  5. Jamboree

    Jamboree Junior Member

    OK, here are the pics (hope this works, never done it before):

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    Here's the front, with the weird overstamp visible.

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    Here's a close-up of the overstamp showing the original "1946" date still partly visible.

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    And here's the reverse, showing the effects of the stamping on the right edge.

    Who did this, and why? Was it something "official," or just some nut goofing around?
     
  6. chip

    chip Novice collector

    I vote for some nut goofing around. When work is slow and you have a hammer and some number stamps lying around one thing could lead to another and before you know it....
     
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  7. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Second the motion.
     
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  8. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Yep, some nut job. You can see the evidence on the reverse that it was hammered.
     
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  9. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    Yeah, this is post mint damage. It's an interesting find but not worth anything.
     
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  10. Pyrbob

    Pyrbob Member

    Post mint damage for sure. Also the comment was made that there is no hole in the R of PLURIBUS so it is not a Henning. Keep in mind that Henning made more than one reverse die (he claimed to have made 6) and the hole in the R is not on all of them. So you can't use this as a sole diagnostic for a Henning nickel.
     
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  11. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi,

    Definitely post-mint damage. The numbers were added with punches.

    Thanks,
    Bill
     
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  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The question is, where do you get a backwards 4 punch? Of course maybe it isn't backwards, maybe it is rotated clockwise 90 degrees.
     
  13. 9roswell

    9roswell Senior Member

    they make reverse #s, we use them all the time
     
  14. just coins

    just coins New Member

    I do believe a little kid did this he was bored or a Nutty .
    JC
     
  15. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Stop and think about it - when dates were handpunched into the dies, they had to be incuse reversed characters, so that coin date would be correctly oriented raised numbers.
     
  16. dracula370

    dracula370 Mmmmmmm......Bacon

    I don't think we'll need a vote on this.....
     
  17. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast


    After 1909, dates were modeled on the hubs, so they were raised on the hubs then transfered to the dies. There were no backward punches used.
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    OK your right a standard raised 4 punch would make an incused reversed 4 like that. So in that case the REST of the number punches are backwards.
     
  19. 50cent

    50cent What A steal

    interesting coin but some nut did it
     
  20. A.K.Moon

    A.K.Moon New Member

  21. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    It has been damaged somehow. For some reason coins are a common target for mutilation!
     
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