Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Patrick1, Jan 13, 2019.
I don't have an issue. I just have not received my orders yet because not enough time has passed.
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For example, neither of these are 1854/3. They are the normal, (very) common 1854, worth a fraction of what they're asking:
This one is described as 1858/3, but is actually 1858/2 (I won't get started on the "UNC" grading).
They are asking a hopelessly unrealistic €750 for it. A better one sold at LCA just last month for £220+ commission: http://londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&auc=163&searchlot=771&searchtype=2
So where do we stand when the seller says "yes it is" and the buyer says "no it isn't"?
I have purchased German States coins on several occasions from different ma shops dealers (all pre-1700 dates), that were all fairly priced, along with very good shipping rates, too. In particular, some scarce issues, in nice grades~that when I have encountered these coins on eBay, or Vcoins, they were either priced much higher than what I paid through MA Shops, or they were close in price, but were in horrible condition. I have seen some dealers on ma shops as well with crazy prices, inaccuracies in descriptions- but not many in my experience. I think also you will find instances of this anywhere that you have a lot of people selling, including coin shows/fairs, obviously.
I've no doubt, and maybe I am being a little unfair. The coins I've highlighted are British, sold by non-British sellers, and I think therein lies the problem: it's not their area of expertise. However, I don't think they do enough to check. They find a scarce variety in a book and they see what they want to see.
Were your German States coins from German sellers?
I don’t recall the exact history, but it was a mixture of German and non-German sellers.
I get why you're pleased.
German dealers/ auction houses have very strict grading.
NGC MS-66/67= Stempelglanz( UNC.)
NGC MS-65/64= Fast St.(AU)
NGC MS 63/62= Vorzg+ ( EF+)
NGC MS-61/60= Vorzg. (EF)
NGC AU-58/55= Sehr Schon+ (VF+)
That is true @panzerman … and the german definition is mostly not translated to the english standard. Here is an explanation for the grading, from the german definition to the english standards:
Maybe that helps...
Sorry, not sure if the link was correct
plus days from me, N.E. Tn., to reach Omaha. Sann is one
of the best on MA-shops. All of the dealers I have ordered
from were wonderful to work with!!
https://www.ma-shops.de/shops/help.php?id=11 doesn't help. "Sammler" is "collector" and "zeichen" is "characters." "Collector characters" doesn't make much sense to me though. I found another coin with that word and it clear has some graffiti on it (someone carved the letter A in it), but this is the other coin I'm looking at and I can't spot anything: https://www.kuenker.de/en/auktionen/stueck/164354.
Thank you very much!
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