Ancients => Holy Ox!!

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  1. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    This is my second win from the most recent CNG auction ... this is probably my favourite of all the spoils?!

    Yah, I love scoring these cool AR RR examples ... and I thought this particualr coin was quite a nice example of this coin-type (the sweet bucranium was merely the icing on the cake)

    A. Postumius A.f. Sp.n. Albinus. AR Serrate Denarius
    Rome mint
    81 BC
    Diameter: 20 mm
    Weight: 3.68 grams
    Obverse: Draped bust of Diana right, with bow and quiver over shoulder; bucranium above
    Reverse: Togate figure standing left on rock, holding aspergillum over head of ox standing right; lighted altar between them
    Reference: Crawford 372/1; Sydenham 745; Postumia 7
    Other: 10h … sweetly toned, a few light marks

    From the Archer M. Huntington Collection, ANS 1001.1.12745

    A Postumius Af Sp n Albinus.jpg

    "Please" pile-on and post all of your gorgeous/humble examples ...

    AR RR examples
    Diana examples
    Bucranium examples
    Aspergillum examples
    Ox examples
    Serrate examples (bottle-caps)
    Underpants
    Altar examples
    etc
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    By the way, I always love adding words to my vocabulary ...

    Aspergillum ... is a liturgical implement used to sprinkle holy water

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspergillum

    Yah, I'm sure that most of you probably knew that word already, eh? (religion wasn't one of my family's strongest-suits) ... I learned about Jesus and God mostly through swear words

    :oops:
     
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  4. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Nice catch RR are special :D
     
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  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Thanks, Oki

    Funny enough, I guess this Herennius Etruscus example that I posted in one of Bing's threads today had an aspergillum in it, eh?


    Herennius Etruscus AR Antoninianus
    "PIETAS AVGVSTORVM Implements"

    250-251 AD
    Rome Mint
    Diameter: 23mm
    Weight: 3.80 grams
    Obverse: Q HER ETR MES DECIVS NOB C, draped bust right
    Reverse: PIETAS AVGVSTORVM, sprinkler, simpulum, jug, and lituus (sacrificial implements of the priest )
    Reference: RIC IV: 143

    Her Et Ant.jpg

    => I'm assuming that "sprinkler" is an aspergillum?
     
  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice one little brother. I have a different coin minted by the same moneyerin the same year:
    A. POSTUMIUS A.F. SP.N. ALBINUS.jpg
    A. POSTUMIUS A.F. SP.N. ALBINUS ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS POSTUMIA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: HISPAN, veiled head of Hispania
    REVERSE: A ALBIN S N, togate figure standing left between legionary eagle and fasces, POST A F in ex
    Rome 81 BC
    3.34g; 20mm
    Syd 746; Cr372/2
     
  7. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    EGYPT, Alexandria. Hadrian AE Diobol 133-34 AD Apis Bull altar before 287 P Hadrian Emmett 1114.18.jpg
     
  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Awesome coins, fellas (thanks for posting your sweet examples)
     
  9. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    I was watching that coin the past week or so hoping you'd win it. Awesome coin man.
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  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I wouldn't mind adding that one to my ancient collection.
     
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  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Oooh, that example is excellent! I saw it and was lamenting a little the fact that I already had one of them. Congrats on the score, bro :).

    RR albinus diana.jpg
    Notes: This reverse type shows a sacrifice scene at the temple of Diana on the Aventine Hill. The sacrifice was made to seek the goddess's favour before the Battle of Lake Regillus, where the Roman Army commanded by A. Postumius Albus triumphed over the Latin League and Lucius Tarquinus Superbus, the expelled king of Rome.
     
  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    RR Anon AR Didrachm 275-270 BCE ROMANO Apollo-Galloping Horse Sear23.jpg
    RR Anon AR Didrachm 275-270 BCE ROMANO Apollo-Galloping Horse Sear23

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    RR Anon AE 28mm 19.2g Quadrans - Sicily mint 214-212 BCE Hercules-Erymanthian boar headdress - Bull ex RBW Craw 72/7
     
  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    That is a nice one. I have had mine for decades and it is a bright and shiny as the day I got it. Most of my 20+ year silver has toned over time so I have to wonder what they put on it before I got it. Yours has exceptional centering compared to most of this type. Well played!
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  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Steve that is just a gorgeous Denarius. Period. Well done. Everything is "right" about that coin! Would love to have that guy!
     
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  15. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Sweet coin, my Canadian coin bro. That RR has tons of character.

    I only have one RR with a bull... L. Thorius Balbus. One day I hope to upgrade it. If I do, I'll definitely do a giveaway with it.

    L Thorius Balbus.jpg
     
  16. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    @stevex6
    Great coin win. You have a busy coin. I like all of the interesting features on your coin: bull, alter with fire, water sprinkler, guy in toga, Diana with flowing ribbon (to make her look more feminine), bow arrows and a bulcrania (there is only one). I am amazed at the features the Romans could fit on a 20mm coin.
    I wonder if the rock on the reverse had a special meaning to the Sabins or Postumumus family.
    My guy in a toga is voting -
    voting.jpg
    Bucranium (plural bucrania; Latin, from Greek βουκράνιον, referring to the skull of an ox)
     
  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    That is pretty cool on the Bucranium meaning "Ox SKULL". I named two of my dogs over the years as Bucephalus (I and II) meaning "Ox HEAD" (after Alexander the Great's Horse's name).

    Both were Bassets and were pretty stubborn creatures that I thoroughly loved! :)
     
  18. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Great name for any pet.
     
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  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Here are a couple more cool AR RR examples with "Diana" ...

    C. Postumus
    Larry dog a.jpg Larry dog b.jpg


    C. Hosidius C.f. Geta
    c hosid a.jpg c hosid b.jpg


    I've shown you mine => let's see yours

    :rolleyes:
     
  20. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I looked up your new coin @stevex6 in Michael Harlan's book: Roman Republican Moneyers and their coins. I found this interesting tidbit:

    " On one of the Sabine farms there was a heifer of marvelous size and beauty, but most conspicuous for her horns. The prophets foretold that imperium would reside in whatever city the man came from who sacrificed the heifer to Diana. So the Sabine led the heifer to Diane's shrine and stood before the alter. Aware of the prophecy, the Roman priest weighed the momentous consequences, "Stranger", he said, " are you preparing to make an impure sacrifice to Diana? Will you not first purify yourself in a living river?" Not wanting to do anything wrong in the eyes of the goddess, the Sabine went down into the valley to the Tiber to purify himself. Our moneyer has depicted the scene at the point when the Roman priest has been left alone with the heifer standing before the lighted alter located on the rocks of the Aventine. He has started the sacrifice by sprinkling her head with holy water; and so it came to be that it was a Roman who sacrificed the heifer to Diana. For generations thereafter the heifer's skull with it's wondrous horns was seen hanging in the vestibule of the temple of Diana on the Aventine. Since it was customary in her other temples to hang stag heads, the cow skull here identifies this unique scene. Unfortunately, those wondrous horns depicted on Postumius' bovine led Crawford to misidentify the heifer as a bull and this description continues to be repeated in some modern catalogs."

    Harlan goes on to say there are differing versions of the story, but all identify the bovine as a heifer and not a bull or ox. This also includes the skull on the obverse which then would not be a bucranium (or maybe it is).

    BTW, this book is a great read and a must for those who collect Roman Republican coinage.
     
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  21. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Thanks for the extra info, Bing ... that was very interesting

    => I copied it into my coin notes

    :rolleyes:
     
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