1986/7 Silver eagles

Hope everyone is doing well . missed you guys though. Had some phone issues. And then I was taking care of my stepdad with dementia. What a mission. So here's what I got,Proof 1986/87 Wyman reverse on a $1 troy ounce silver eagle walking liberty. These are genuine coins they're with they're what you call strike overs they used a US mint coin and struck over them that's what I can find out but they never made, a wine in reverse on a silver eagle they were on the half dollar. So somehow this got minted. Here's the reverse now see if you can help me out tell me what you think thank you

 

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I wouldn't call that a coin.
That's some sort of weird silver bullion.
And it's a hot mess.

 

Silver Eagles are bullion, nor coins and that one has been messed with. Not original by and means.

 

your both wrong , partially. I'm smarter than that now. I do my homework before I write anything on this website. Here's what I found out

 

That's from the guy who invents them and there is value they trade on heritage auction I'm sorry not heritage great collections and annex attributes them and I think NGC does as well I'll take an apology now thank you

 

If you both want to learn something today go to numismatic news bullying arrow coins and you'll see how they invented them in 1986 all the way through with the different dive varieties they used it was like nine different die varieties

 

Can you cite your expert for your evaluation of the round? I’m also kinda curious about what’s written above the text you provided.

 

Its interesting, but it's not gonna be worth a lot. It was done on purpose, privately by someone who has the machinery to mint their own coins.

If its silver, it may have some sort of value to the right person, but personally I wouldn't pay a whole lot for it.

 

I'm afraid you don't get a passing grade this time.

I don't see anything in the quote you posted that supports what you believe. The quote says "if it were a US Mint Silver Eagle pair". That phrasing means "it is not such a thing".

 

So rude.
I'm not apologizing for anything. It's not a coin.

I'm not posting anything on any of your future threads ever again

 

WillyWonka,

Here is something similar, but it has much more aesthetic appeal. These were created by a semi well-known numismatic artist named Mike Bozynski.

@paddyman98 was being kind by calling your piece a "hot mess."

These are very scarce and have verifiable mintage. Do you know how many of those damaged bullion pieces were made?

That and appeal to collectors determine value.

Z

 

Got that right, a huge hot mess nobody is gonna want as it's ruined! Better luck next time @Willysilver.

 

All good it's silver I was just trying to share with you guys what I learned in this experience that's all I was trying to do nothing but help and I get nothing but flack

 

great examples let paddy know it's a coin lol

 

Probably not is it only worth what someone will pay anyways that's the bottom line in this coin industry

 

Negative. As usual, Paddy is correct

A coin is an instrument of commerce, typically a struck metal planchet made by a recognized nation and issued for common commerce - made to buy or sell products.

These silver rounds ARE the product. They were originally sold far above face value, were never distributed by banks at face value to buy other stuff, therefore they are not coins.

Z

 

I might add one thing @ZoidMeister, although I can see part of your definition already covering it…. Usually with the value minted on one side.

still disqualifies Willy’s round, but I’m thinking the denomination is part of the definition too…

 

You got the flack by insisting the sound advice folks were trying to give you was incorrect and by refusing to learn.

Z

 

So despite telling members they are wrong when the are not and demanding an apology from them you just wanted to share what you found? Seems like much more of a badly conceived and executed gotcha game….